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Damien 18-07-2025 07:17
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36199450)
16 year olds cannot frame their vote in terms of current affairs, taxes, economy, defence, driving and so on.

Labour's proposal is naked gerrymandering because they know that kids don't change up to being less socialist / more conservative until they've tasted proper life.
It won't change much, the demographic is too small, and less likely to be engaged. I also think they won't vote for Labour in the volumes people expect.

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36199462)
But the young socialists WILL bother. Starmer joined the Labour party at 16.
Then good for them. If it causes people to become politically aware earlier, it's a good thing.

Anonymouse 18-07-2025 08:11
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36199464)
I also think they won't vote for Labour in the volumes people expect.
If they vote Labour at all...which I doubt.

And I still want the introduction of 'None Of The Above'!

Mr K 18-07-2025 17:58
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
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Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36199467)
If they vote Labour at all...which I doubt.

And I still want the introduction of 'None Of The Above'!
Only needed if voting is compulsory, which it is in Australia, and its an option on the ballot paper there.

'None of the above' here - either don't vote or stand for election yourself.

Sephiroth 18-07-2025 18:36
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36199492)
Only needed if voting is compulsory, which it is in Australia, and its an option on the ballot paper there.

'None of the above' here - either don't vote or stand for election yourself.
I favour compulsory voting.

Jaymoss 18-07-2025 18:41
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36199494)
I favour compulsory voting.
I would still not vote and face the consequences.

pip08456 18-07-2025 19:36
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36199494)
I favour compulsory voting.
Riddle me this Seph, we have compulsoy voying introduced. How is it policed? Do people just have to turn up at the polling station, have their name ticked off on the electoral role as having attended?
Do they have to vote or can they destroy their ballot by whatever means?
How can someone check if a secret ballot has resulted in a vote?

Mr K 18-07-2025 19:45
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36199497)
Riddle me this Seph, we have compulsoy voying introduced. How is it policed? Do people just have to turn up at the polling station, have their name ticked off on the electoral role as having attended?
Do they have to vote or can they destroy their ballot by whatever means?
How can someone check if a secret ballot has resulted in a vote?
Look at Australia. You get a fine. Doesn't matter if submit a blank vote or spoil the ballot, as long you return it.

I favour compulsory voting too. But it'll never happen in this country. We're too apathetic and object to anything that involves getting out of bed.

Sephiroth 18-07-2025 20:47
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36199498)
Look at Australia. You get a fine. Doesn't matter if submit a blank vote or spoil the ballot, as long you return it.

I favour compulsory voting too. But it'll never happen in this country. We're too apathetic and object to anything that involves getting out of bed.
You're prolly right. Anyway, the government does the opposite of what people want.

Btw, I also support an ID card - always have done.

Paul 19-07-2025 01:32
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36199495)
I would still not vote and face the consequences.
Why ?

Anonymouse 19-07-2025 08:28
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
Shouldn't be compulsory. The right to vote should include the right not to vote IMO.

Is NOTA an option for the Aussies? Strewth! Good for you, cobbers!

Sephiroth 19-07-2025 11:12
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
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Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36199516)
Shouldn't be compulsory. The right to vote should include the right not to vote IMO.

Is NOTA an option for the Aussies? Strewth! Good for you, cobbers!
Spoil the ballot, Squire.

papa smurf 19-07-2025 11:19
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36199521)
Spoil the ballot, Squire.
wot vote labour :shocked:

thenry 19-07-2025 11:20
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
The right to vote right to not vote seems a bit woke with regards to compulsory voting.

Sephiroth 19-07-2025 11:41
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36199523)
The right to vote right to not vote seems a bit woke with regards to compulsory voting.
Please explain what you mean.

thenry 19-07-2025 11:47
Re: Voting Age Lowered To 16 In The UK
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36199524)
Please explain what you mean.
Silly people getting offended by a vote.


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