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Paul 14-01-2025 00:06

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36189295)
There are some places where Openreach isn't available, but Virgin is.

Name one.

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In some areas the speed of the available alternatives isn't high enough for their needs, so it's a Hobsons choice.
Irrelevant again, Internet is available, they have a choice.

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Just a reminder btw that you can almost certainly get Satellite Broadband anywhere in the UK, plus 4G, 5G and local Wifi systems in some areas.

Itshim 14-01-2025 10:53

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36189298)
Name one.


Irrelevant again, Internet is available, they have a choice.

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Just a reminder btw that you can almost certainly get Satellite Broadband anywhere in the UK, plus 4G, 5G and local Wifi systems in some areas.

At times I have to disagree with . In the case I
Totally agree 👍

RichardCoulter 14-01-2025 19:25

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36189298)
Name one.


Irrelevant again, Internet is available, they have a choice.

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Just a reminder btw that you can almost certainly get Satellite Broadband anywhere in the UK, plus 4G, 5G and local Wifi systems in some areas.

There was a post on here from someone who couldn't get Openreach who was asking for advice because Virgin were asking for extra installation costs.

ozsat 14-01-2025 19:56

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
Openreach do not provide telephone services to the public.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36189364)
There was a post on here from someone who couldn't get Openreach who was asking for advice because Virgin were asking for extra installation costs.


RichardCoulter 14-01-2025 21:20

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36189367)
Openreach do not provide telephone services to the public.

BT.

GrimUpNorth 14-01-2025 21:39

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36189364)
There was a post on here from someone who couldn't get Openreach who was asking for advice because Virgin were asking for extra installation costs.

I call BS on this one Richard. BT and KCOM have universal supply obligations for telephony and broadband.

RichardCoulter 14-01-2025 23:09

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
I doubt he'd lie about it and then come on here, write a long post about it and then carry on a conversation for ages.

Paul 15-01-2025 02:54

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
Its the internet, people do that all the time.
What they say, and reality are often not the same.

Also, as I already pointed out, there are always other alternatives (mobile, satellite).

I'll say again, there is no area in the UK where Virgin is the only option.
Just because the options are not to your (or others) liking doesnt mean they dont exist.

RichardCoulter 15-01-2025 17:45

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
How does satellite broadband work? I may look into that.

I can understand that a satellite sends incoming data, like satellite TV, but how is outgoing data dealt with?

Surely it isn't unlinked back to the satellite as TV stations are, as wouldn't people need massive dishes in their gardens??

RobboEdin 15-01-2025 18:23

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36189397)
How does satellite broadband work? I may look into that.

I can understand that a satellite sends incoming data, like satellite TV, but how is outgoing data dealt with?

Surely it isn't unlinked back to the satellite as TV stations are, as wouldn't people need massive dishes in their gardens??

Elon will sort it for you:
https://www.starlink.com/gb

Itshim 15-01-2025 18:46

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36189397)
How does satellite broadband work? I may look into that.

I can understand that a satellite sends incoming data, like satellite TV, but how is outgoing data dealt with?

Surely it isn't unlinked back to the satellite as TV stations are, as wouldn't people need massive dishes in their gardens??

https://www.comparethemarket.com/bro...ite-broadband/

Dingbat 15-01-2025 20:38

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36189374)
I call BS on this one Richard. BT and KCOM have universal supply obligations for telephony and broadband.

In my time at BT, there were some new build housing developments where the developers wouldn’t allow BT to cable the estate and had an exclusive deal with VM instead.

Few and far between, but it did happen.

Itshim 15-01-2025 20:42

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
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Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36189404)
In my time at BT, there were some new build housing developments where the developers wouldn’t allow BT to cable the estate and had an exclusive deal with VM instead.

Few and far between, but it did happen.

That wouldn't stop other ways of getting service. Just being noisy when was this:confused:

Dingbat 15-01-2025 20:46

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36189405)
That wouldn't stop other ways of getting service. Just being noisy when was this:confused:

Mostly in the 1990s and early 2000s.

RichardCoulter 15-01-2025 22:46

Re: Virgin up to their usual tricks.
 
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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36189401)
Elon will sort it for you:
https://www.starlink.com/gb

£393 installation charge and £75 a month :shocked:


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