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Pierre 29-10-2024 21:07
Re: Update: Southport attack, three children now dead.
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36185052)
https://www.thetimes.com/article/084...8f1987f572921a
* Serena Kennedy, the chief constable of Merseyside police
What utter shite.

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“I recognise that these new charges may lead to speculation. no shit!The matter for which Axel Rudakubana has been charged under the Terrorism Act doesn’t require motive to be established. For a matter to be declared a terrorist incident, motivation would need to be established.”
. ………terror is the motivation, I don’t understand that statement, what other motivation for stabbing and killing three tiny girls is there!

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She added: “I would strongly advise anyone against speculating as to the motivation in this case
Really…..! I don’t think the swear filter is strong enough to contain what I would say.

OK…. What is the motivation for a young man that has terrorist material, trying to manufacture nerve poison and then murder 3 young girls……..multi-cultural social outreach?

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“My plea is to be patient. Don’t engage in rumour and speculation. Don’t believe everything you read on social media.
Well it turned out the rumour and speculation ended up being correct, don’t believe everything the police, government and media tell you…I think…..is more accurate.

Starmer comes across again as an out of touch authoritarian, he demonised people with genuine concerns, called them all far right thugs, imprisoned several of them…………but their concerns ended up being correct.

nomadking 29-10-2024 21:21
Re: Update: Southport attack, three children now dead.
 
Always seemed odd that he targeted a specific small event.

Chris 20-01-2025 12:07
Re: Update: Southport attack, three children now dead.
 
Axel Rudakubana has pleaded guilty to all charges.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c9q7r4wpep0t

This was a last minute change which took the court by surprise - they were prepared to swear in the jury and begin legal argument. The families of his victims weren’t even there because they were expecting the substantive proceedings not to get going until tomorrow.

Pierre 20-01-2025 12:41
Re: Update: Axel Rudakubana pleads guilty to all Southport attack charges
 
This will have the conspiracy fruits on social media going into melt down.

It has long been rumoured that this trial would expose things, I don't know what, that would shock and anger many people.

Conveniently, this will now not happen.

The rumours may now come out anyway as there is now no trial to prejudice, but will have a much diminished impact and can be waved away as gossip.

nomadking 20-01-2025 12:51
Re: Update: Axel Rudakubana pleads guilty to all Southport attack charges
 
t seen any "why"(other than the usual) for the what seems to have been a targeted attack. He didn't do the usual of going out onto a street and randomly attacking people.
Why wasn't it classed as a racist attack?

papa smurf 20-01-2025 13:01
Re: Update: Axel Rudakubana pleads guilty to all Southport attack charges
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36189624)
t seen any "why"(other than the usual) for the what seems to have been a targeted attack. He didn't do the usual of going out onto a street and randomly attacking people.
Why wasn't it classed as a racist attack?
Was everyone attending of the same race?

1andrew1 20-01-2025 13:03
Re: Update: Axel Rudakubana pleads guilty to all Southport attack charges
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36189621)
This will have the conspiracy fruits on social media going into melt down.

It has long been rumoured that this trial would expose things, I don't know what, that would shock and anger many people.

Conveniently, this will now not happen.

The rumours may now come out anyway as there is now no trial to prejudice, but will have a much diminished impact and can be waved away as gossip.
By saying "Conveniently, this will now not happen" aligns you with the conspiracy theorists.

Damien 20-01-2025 13:19
Re: Update: Axel Rudakubana pleads guilty to all Southport attack charges
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36189621)
This will have the conspiracy fruits on social media going into melt down.

It has long been rumoured that this trial would expose things, I don't know what, that would shock and anger many people.

Conveniently, this will now not happen.

The rumours may now come out anyway as there is now no trial to prejudice, but will have a much diminished impact and can be waved away as gossip.
Reporting restrictions will be lifted now so they can report more things they couldn't before. https://x.com/lizziedearden/status/1881307460541292889

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Rudakubana will be sentenced on Thursday

His guilty pleas mean automatic reporting restrictions in relation to the anticipated trial have lifted, because there is no risk of prejudicing a jury

Reporting restrictions related to naming the child victims who survived remain

Because of the pleas, the prosecution did not open its case today

They will do that at the sentencing hearing, when the defence will also present evidence and mitigation in relation to Rudakubana's health

So Thursday is when we will get more details on the background of attack

Stephen 20-01-2025 13:19
Re: Update: Axel Rudakubana pleads guilty to all Southport attack charges
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36189624)
t seen any "why"(other than the usual) for the what seems to have been a targeted attack. He didn't do the usual of going out onto a street and randomly attacking people.
Why wasn't it classed as a racist attack?
Why would it be classed as one?

Damien 20-01-2025 13:44
Re: Update: Axel Rudakubana pleads guilty to all Southport attack charges
 
In terms of things coming out, this is one of them: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...orism-30820848

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In an official document seen by the ECHO, it is stated Rudakubana was referred to Prevent four times ahead of the day of the attack, with one coming after he was found to have researched terror attacks, namely the London Bridge attack in 2017, at a specialist high school in 2021. Prevent is a multi-agency taskforce spearheaded by Counter Terrorism Policing which works to prevent vulnerable people being drawn into criminal behaviour. However the ECHO understands three referrals were actually received by Prevent.

papa smurf 20-01-2025 13:56
Re: Update: Axel Rudakubana pleads guilty to all Southport attack charges
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36189630)
In terms of things coming out, this is one of them: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...orism-30820848
These nutters are usually known to the authorities

Damien 20-01-2025 14:07
Re: Update: Axel Rudakubana pleads guilty to all Southport attack charges
 
This one is even worse: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rt-attack.html

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Southport knife attacker Axel Rudakubana is feared to have been planning Britain's first high school massacre a week before the rampage - but was talked out of going to the building by his father, it can be revealed.

Armed with a large kitchen knife, the teenager wore a green hooded sweatshirt and surgical mask as he left his home to a waiting taxi. It would be the same outfit he chose to wear when he went on his murderous rampage in Southport last July.

But his father Alphonse ran out after him and pleaded with the taxi driver not to take him on the 15-mile journey from the family home in Banks, Lancashire, to Range High School, in Formby, Merseyside.

There is no suggestion Rudakubana's father knew what he is believed to have been planning at the school, but an eyewitness said: 'There was a confrontation and Rudakubana was eventually persuaded to leave the vehicle.'

Damien 20-01-2025 18:55
Re: Update: Axel Rudakubana pleads guilty to all Southport attack charges
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj3exxl8zp8o

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A public inquiry will be held into the Southport attacks, Home Secretary Yvette Cooper has announced.

It comes after Axel Rudakubana pleaded guilty on Monday to killing Bebe King, 6, Elsie Dot Stancombe, 7, and Alice da Silva Aguiar, 9 who had been attending a Taylor Swift-themed dance class in the town.

Cooper said their families "needed answers about what had happened leading up to the attack".

She said Rudakubana had been referred to Prevent programme three times between December 2019 and May 2021 when he was aged 13 and 14, as well as having contact with the police, the courts and social services.

papa smurf 20-01-2025 18:59
Re: Update: Axel Rudakubana pleads guilty to all Southport attack charges
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36189684)
Now she want's the truth:rolleyes:

1andrew1 20-01-2025 19:54
Re: Update: Axel Rudakubana pleads guilty to all Southport attack charges
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36189684)
I imagine Elon Musk will be asking for a second enquiry soon. ;)


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