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Hom3r 24-07-2024 11:23
Re: US Election 2024
 
Question


Will the Democrats in the deep southern states vote for a Black woman, when some people there still believe in slavery?

Mr K 24-07-2024 11:57
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36179632)
Question


Will the Democrats in the deep southern states vote for a Black woman, when some people there still believe in slavery?
I'm not sure slavery supporters vote Democrat , regardless of candidate. It's the swing states that matter . There's a lot of women and black people in the US...

Chris 24-07-2024 12:12
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36179632)
Question


Will the Democrats in the deep southern states vote for a Black woman, when some people there still believe in slavery?
There are no swing states in the Deep South. She only needs to win the same ones Biden won in 2020.

Damien 24-07-2024 13:46
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36179635)
There are no swing states in the Deep South. She only needs to win the same ones Biden won in 2020.
Georgia would count. A state that went for Biden in 2020, part of the Deep South and one of the Confederate states.

But one of the things people miss about the Deep South is they also have large African-American populations. Georgia has a large number of those voters and that's what helped Biden in 2020, it might be a bigger help in 2024 for Harris.

papa smurf 24-07-2024 13:47
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36179635)
There are no swing states in the Deep South. She only needs to win the same ones Biden won in 2020.
Can't wait till all the postal votes come in at the last minute to swing the election .

Hugh 24-07-2024 16:17
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36179647)
Can't wait till all the postal votes come in at the last minute to swing the election .
They often come in earlier than that, but Republicans in some States introduced laws stating that they could only be counted on Election Day.

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Fourteen states and Washington, D.C., do not allow counting to begin until the polls close:
Alabama, Alaska, District of Columbia, Idaho, Illinois, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont and Washington.

Twenty-three states allow counting to begin on Election Day, but before the polls close:
Arkansas, California, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-c...ting-can-begin

jfman 24-07-2024 16:59
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36179647)
Can't wait till all the postal votes come in at the last minute to swing the election .
It’s alright, 14 million of them say Joe Biden. ;)

Hugh 24-07-2024 17:30
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36179647)
Can't wait till all the postal votes come in at the last minute to swing the election .
Can’t wait for Donny to ring the States’ Secretaries of State to ask them to find him extra votes, or for him to set up fake Electoral College voters (again).

Dave42 24-07-2024 17:36
Re: US Election 2024
 
Republicans against Trump tweeted who will last longer JD Vance or a lettuce :LOL:

pip08456 24-07-2024 19:19
Re: US Election 2024
 
Andrew Neil seems to have explained it right.

"If Biden not fit to run again he’s not fit to remain as President . Not really. Now he’s off a gruelling campaign schedule his limited energies can be devoted to being President and he has a strong team around him. The country will be safe thru January.
It’s all been orchestrated by Obama and his surrogates. So what?
It’s just campaign noise/bluster from both sides. All that matters is that barely a week ago Trump pretty much had it in the bag. Now it’s a close contest. A contest which is barely underway and whose outcome is now impossible to predict.
We will soon see how long the Harris Honeymoon lasts and if she is a better campaigner than she has been in the past.
And if Trump still has the knack of being his own worst enemy."

Mr K 24-07-2024 21:23
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36179657)
Republicans against Trump tweeted who will last longer JD Vance or a lettuce :LOL:
The Trumpster dug till he found someone lower than himself. It took some doing.

A lettuce would give him serious competition.

Pierre 24-07-2024 21:59
Re: US Election 2024
 
It’s very much a coup.

Biden, or his handlers, had no intention of standing down.

If a standing president was going to pull out of the race like this, there would be a press conference, or a live statement from the Oval Office.

No, what we got was a screen shot of a letter, badly typed, not on White House headed paper and only on X.

If you wanted to fuel a conspiracy, you couldn’t have done it better.

Biden …..Biden’s team…..have been out manoeuvred.

The most important person in all of this may well be the person that runs his X account. Once that suspect letter was posted, he had nowhere to go. Game over.

Straight from the Coup de Grace playbook, own the means of communication.

If it was an African coup, back in the day, they’d take over the tv broadcaster station, and then there’d be a speech to the nation from your new general…I mean president.

The democrats it would seem are not the bastions of democracy.


Harris, it would seem, is being appointed. That is not the American way.


There should be a process, to appoint the democratic nominee, there is plenty of time.


Nobody has voted for Harris to be the presidential nominee, and that is not American

It all stinks.

Damien 24-07-2024 22:09
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36179692)
If a standing president was going to pull out of the race like this, there would be a press conference, or a live statement from the Oval Office.

No, what we got was a screen shot of a letter, badly typed, not on White House headed paper and only on X.

If you wanted to fuel a conspiracy, you couldn’t have done it better.

Biden …..Biden’s team…..have been out manoeuvred.
Bidens team are largely taking over the Harris campaign. Same campaign manager and senior staff. Only some of his closest allies were against this in the end.

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Harris, it would seem, is being appointed. That is not the American way.


There should be a process, to appoint the democratic nominee, there is plenty of time.


Nobody has voted for Harris to be the presidential nominee, and that is not American

It all stinks.
There isn't that much time to do a full primary. It would have to be a fight amongst the delegates in an open convention but they've already swung in behind Harris who had all the important power brokers behind her.

There wasn't really a proper primary this time around anyway as Biden was the sitting President and the two parties usually shut down a competitive primary when they're the incumbent in the White House.

Pierre 24-07-2024 23:16
Re: US Election 2024
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36179694)
Bidens team are largely taking over the Harris campaign. Same campaign manager and senior staff. Only some of his closest allies were against this in the end.
Based on recent statements from Biden, do you think he stood down voluntarily? Or do you think it was done regardless? I know what I think.

He didn’t write that letter.


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There isn't that much time to do a full primary. It would have to be a fight amongst the delegates in an open convention but they've already swung in behind Harris who had all the important power brokers behind her.

There wasn't really a proper primary this time around anyway as Biden was the sitting President and the two parties usually shut down a competitive primary when they're the incumbent in the White House.
The DNC is a month away, no reason why nominees couldn’t put themselves forward. To have Harris as a fait accompli, is not very “democratic” from the Democratic Party.

Hugh 24-07-2024 23:27
Re: US Election 2024
 
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ris-nomination

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“Delegates are free to support who they choose, and we are glad that they are engaging in this important moment in history,” Harrison said. “As a party, we have an obligation to design and implement a fair nomination process for delegates to officially express their preferences through a vote, resulting in eventually an official nominee of the Democratic party who will go on to the top of the ballot in November.”

For a potential challenger to Harris, the window to file a notice of candidacy opens Thursday and closes Saturday, 27 July at 6pm ET. A candidate must submit a petition with 300 signatures from delegates before 30 July to be considered as a candidate for a vote by convention delegates. In the absence of a contest, the virtual roll call vote will be held on 1 July, said Minyon Moore, chair of the Democratic national convention. If not, virtual voting would begin on 3 August.


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