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tweetiepooh 22-07-2024 15:40

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Surprise that people remember the negatives more than the positives. Not really. The press focus on the mistakes and it generates more heat than doing well.

daveeb 22-07-2024 16:28

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36179533)
Surprise that people remember the negatives more than the positives. Not really. The press focus on the mistakes and it generates more heat than doing well.

Most observant people just remember it for the horror show that it was. The majority of the press in fact went out of their way to deflect from the constant corruption and mistakes.

spiderplant 22-07-2024 17:26

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36179533)
Surprise that people remember the negatives more than the positives.

Were there positives?

ianch99 22-07-2024 18:29

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36179538)
Were there positives?

Yes, if you were a Tory donor.

1andrew1 22-07-2024 19:33

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36179538)
Were there positives?

If you seized the opportunities then yes. Those opportunities being to supply PPE, no due diligence or experience required except having Ministerial connections. And to discretely supply alcohol to No 10 during lockdown.

heero_yuy 22-07-2024 19:34

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36179538)
Were there positives?

Furlough that saved many people's livelihood and the companies that they worked for and still now work for. The subsidising of peoples energy bills that kept the heating on for the most vulnerable and the roll out of immunising jabs months ahead of the EU's botched procurement.

Yes mistakes were made but with the likes of Ferguson and Witty predicting that the population would be dropping like flies in their millions it's not surprising that a measure of panic ensued.

Pierre 22-07-2024 22:12

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36179546)
Furlough that saved many people's livelihood and the companies that they worked for and still now work for. The subsidising of peoples energy bills that kept the heating on for the most vulnerable and the roll out of immunising jabs months ahead of the EU's botched procurement.

As a Tory voter since 2010 until the last election (which I didn’t vote Tory), you might expect me to agree with this post.

But no, furlough was their own making. You can’t shut down the economy and then expect credit for compensating those that you have banned from earning.

They shouldn’t have locked down, they shouldn’t have crippled the country or put us under house arrest to begin with.

Their response to covid, and their antics during should, and did, attract nothing but disdain.

In their 14 yrs they have achieved nothing of note, they had a mandate after 2019 to revolutionise the UK’s economy and relationship with the world, and they royally screwed it up.

Their legacy is to give us Kier…fffin…..Starmer, We’ll done.

1andrew1 28-07-2024 22:10

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One B in, one B out!

Chances of Braverman defecting to UKIP must have increased as she has withdrawn from the leadership race and says Party ‘doesn’t want to hear truth’ about why it lost the election.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/295292...y-leader-race/

And Badenoch has entered the leadership race.
https://news.sky.com/story/kemi-bade...sunak-13186188

They're conspiring to wreck the carefully-constructed CF poll! :D

Maggy 29-07-2024 13:33

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36179364)
In five years you'll fed up with Starmer as well and begging to have the Torys back.:D

Well I won't!

denphone 29-07-2024 14:00

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Well I won't!

Me neither as its very likely Starmer will to somes displeasure have two terms at least to sort the almighty mess that the Conservatives have left this country in..

daveeb 29-07-2024 16:22

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36179972)
Me neither as its very likely Starmer will to somes displeasure have two terms at least to sort the almighty mess that the Conservatives have left this country in..

I hope I never see another Tory government again and I'm not planning on dying any time soon.

Dave42 30-07-2024 00:00

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https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2024/07/3.jpg

OBR confirm £21.9B black hole left by the nasty party

---------- Post added 30-07-2024 at 00:00 ---------- Previous post was 29-07-2024 at 23:54 ----------

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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36179984)
I hope I never see another Tory government again and I'm not planning on dying any time soon.

:clap::clap::clap:

Damien 30-07-2024 06:25

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FYI It's not the '£20 billion' that is the problem exactly.

The allegations are a further overspend not accounted for in the last budget. Namely that the cost of housing asylum seekers was not included in the figures and that a £9 billion contingency was spent multiple times over.

https://x.com/PJTheEconomist/status/1817933176930508802

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Rachel Reeves says £6.4bn overspend on asylum this year. Huge number. Does genuinely appear to have been unfunded.
https://x.com/BenZaranko/status/1817937159292117436

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Need to see the detail, but I think Rachel Reeves has grounds to be cross. The in-year funding pressures do genuinely appear to be greater than could be discerned from outside. The £9bn contingency ‘reserve’ has seemingly been spent several times over. It’s a mess.
That's from the IFS.

That said everyone is right to say the £20 billion was known about as was the fact a deal would need to be done with the Junior Doctors.

Paul 04-09-2024 18:26

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Two left (Robert Jenrick, Kemi Badenoch).

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Former cabinet minister Priti Patel has been knocked out of the Conservative leadership contest in the first round of voting by Tory MPs.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1d7y92n31zo

Pierre 04-09-2024 19:08

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I’d like to see Badenoch take it on, would be interesting if nothing else.


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