Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

Unfortunately, not for 4K…

https://www.cable.co.uk/broadband/gu...0for%20example).

If you have two people streaming different 4K programmes, and anyone else in the house gaming/downloading/YouTubing/etc, 10Mb/s isn’t going to be a valid option…

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

Well I don't have a 4k tv and I don't game. So maybe I'm an outlier? ;) Suspect many just still use the interweb for browsing. Speed these days is just a marketing gimmick that benefits few. Reliability is everything.

Anyway back to VM and breaking the law over its new contracts. It's also the cancellation run around they are giving anyone cheeky enough to try and cancel.

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ne...e-difficultie/

VM could get fined, and ordered to pay compensation if Ofcom get their finger out. It's as much a test of Ofcom as VM, bet both come up short

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

256k used to be top tier When ADSL first came out, before that I had 64K ISDN.
Your point is?

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

My point is 10mb is good enough to steam HDTV which is the most I ever ask of my BB.

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

That’s all you ask, but you probably said the same about SD to and other lesser things before that.
The world moves on. You don’t have to if you don’t want to.

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

It’s horses for courses.

We get 30Mb, if it’s blowing the right way, can go down 15Mb, and we get about 6Mb up.

That drives, At any one time, 3 iPads, a meta-quest/ PS4 / computer depending what he’s on and a TV streaming HD.

And it can just about cope with it all, but my eldest will complain that it’s laggy.

Also downloading an update on the PS4 can take multiple hours (sometimes 6-8)

I’d be over the moon with 100Mb symmetrical. I don’t know what the lowest tier would be on full fibre, but if they offered that, that’s all I’d want.

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

Full fibre (at least from openreach) is not symmetrical.

The fastest is generally around 900/100.

My TalkTalk was 150/25, and my current is 300/45.

Other common offerings are around 75/15, 500/70 & 900/100.

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

Well that’s not really much better than DOCSIS.

I suppose I’ll have to hope some come into my area with XGS.

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

Some non Openreach ISPs provide symmetrical fibre services. In my area LIT Fibre offer symmetrical connections from 100/100 to 1000/1000 at competitive prices.

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

Sadly this doesn't seem to happen these days as most businesses operate like a cartel - one increases prices and the other follow suit, and mid-contract price increases is a perfect example of this.

I thought that regulators were there to protect customers from this type of behaviour but you do get the impression this is not the case with Ofcom which lets the industries which it is supposed to regulate do whatever they want, regardless of the harm caused to the customer. Therefore, I have to conclude that, as you have said, Mr K, Ofcom won't do anything to stop this practice.

Yea while quality goes downhill!!

People need to fight this and not sit there!!

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

I simply went elsewhere.

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

I’ve been with Virgin for the past 16 years as they were the only provider of fast internet.
Open reach have just come to my road so they will now have competition.
Pity I’m just moving to an area with no virgin or open reach.

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

I'm almost certainly going to leave VM when my next renewal is up.

I now have nothing else from them other than 1G BB (TV dropped 18 months ago, Phone dropped 2 months ago). Having tested FTTP for the last few months, its working just fine, plus I now have a proper static IP (VM are not officially static, they do rarely change). I can get 900+M for less than VMs 1G service (and on shorter contracts, and no web site blocking) and in reality, the difference is pretty small (in fact, on my current router, no difference at all since it struggles above 750M).

The main thing that has kept me with them is my wifes email address, but we have begun moving her off that onto a none ISP linked address.
I basically stopped using mine a few years ago.

Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
 

So I left almost 2 years ago now and my email is still working :) (we did transition away anyway, but I still see the VM email spam filter being as useless as ever)