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Mick 06-05-2022 08:01

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
BREAKING: John Curtice: Local Election results so far, show Labour would not be the Largest party in a General Election.

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The results in the local elections so far provide further evidence of the fractured nature of British politics. The Tories have done badly in London. They lost Barnet, which was widely expected. And they have also suffered defeats in Wandsworth and Westminster.

Labour have had some good results, taking Southampton from the Tories. But it is impossible to see these results as a sea change in favour of Labour. On the BBC’s numbers their vote share is only up one point on 2018, when these seats were last contested. John Curtice, the elections expert, says that these results would not guarantee that Labour would be the largest party in the next parliament.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...ection-results

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Ouch:

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Sam Coates, Sky News Deputy Political Editor:

‘Tameside ward in Angela Rayners constituency switched from Labour to Tory’

Damien 06-05-2022 08:12

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
Makes sense. The vote share and seat projections at the national level also suggest that it would be a hung Parliament similar to 2017 albeit some would have Labour as the biggest party and others not. 2017 was similar in vote share to 2018.

So Labour have recovered past 2019 but they’re not destined for government yet. They are probably a bit disappointed it isn’t more. They’ll want some signs of recovery in Scotland which is yet to count.

Lib Dems have to be the happiest party this morning.

Tories probably a bit pleased some of England wasn’t as bad as the worst fears but London has been a disaster. They didn’t expect to lose Westminster especially.

Mick 06-05-2022 08:18

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36121302)

So Labour have recovered past 2019 but they’re not destined for government yet.

This is saying a lot, this is after nearly 12 years of Conservative Government! :shocked:

Damien 06-05-2022 08:23

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36121303)
This is saying a lot, this is after nearly 12 years of Conservative Government! :shocked:

Sure but that damage was done in 2019. If the next election matches 2017 that would be a big gain in seats.

I think these results will fuel the idea of a Lib/Lab coalition if the Liberals can actually translate this into seats.

Mick 06-05-2022 08:23

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
The key question is this; Will Boris Survive his premiership?

I think he may just survive by the skin of his teeth. There may be several letters arriving at 1922 Committee over next few days, some may still be waiting if there is any more fines coming his way, however, Keir Starmer could still be potentially facing a fine as Durham Constabulary, now say they’re looking in to “beergate” again and give an update in due course.

Damien 06-05-2022 08:30

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
I think Johnson will survive because there isn’t an obvious alternative

peanut 06-05-2022 09:16

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36121306)
I think Johnson will survive because there isn’t an obvious alternative

The other alternative is the longer he stays, the worse it'll get for the Tories.

1andrew1 06-05-2022 10:04

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36121302)
Makes sense. The vote share and seat projections at the national level also suggest that it would be a hung Parliament similar to 2017 albeit some would have Labour as the biggest party and others not. 2017 was similar in vote share to 2018.

So Labour have recovered past 2019 but they’re not destined for government yet. They are probably a bit disappointed it isn’t more. They’ll want some signs of recovery in Scotland which is yet to count.

Lib Dems have to be the happiest party this morning.

Tories probably a bit pleased some of England wasn’t as bad as the worst fears but London has been a disaster. They didn’t expect to lose Westminster especially.

My guess it might be local issues in Westminster. Oxford Street is a state and Westminster opposed pedestrianising it and instead wasted money on that temporary mound at Marble Arch.
Is the strong performance from the Lib Dems more a recovery from the last local elections where they underperformed?

Maggy 06-05-2022 10:05

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36121311)
The other alternative is the longer he stays, the worse it'll get for the Tories.

Hopefully.;)

1andrew1 06-05-2022 10:07

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36121306)
I think Johnson will survive because there isn’t an obvious alternative

Favourite alternative Sunak's been dragged into Partygate too but if the Sue Gray report is damning, Johnson may have to resign.

tweetiepooh 06-05-2022 11:05

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
Southampton was only 17 of 48 seats up for grab so although Labour gain it's not really a huge swing.
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Mick 06-05-2022 11:40

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
Labour folk passing this off as very good for them, are deluded. They should have caused a huge dent, it’s not even been terminal for the Tories.

jonbxx 06-05-2022 13:06

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36121325)
Labour folk passing this off as very good for them, are deluded. They should have caused a huge dent, it’s not even been terminal for the Tories.

I guess it depends on what you are measuring against. The results from Yesterday are comparing against results in 2018 where Labour did very well and the Conservatives did poorly. A modest gain on a good result is probably 'OK to good' and a further drop on a bad result is bad news for the Conservatives.

These results do reflect what a big centrist hole there is. The Liberal Democrats are filling this one nicely as the Conservatives go to the right (in some policies but not all) and there is still the hangover of Jeremy Corbyns very left policies for Labour. It will be interesting to know where the Conservative voters went in this election - did they go Lib Dem or Green or did they go all the way over to Labour. I suspect it is the former
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Just seem the term 'Long Corbyn' trending. That's a good description of Labours problem right now!

1andrew1 06-05-2022 14:02

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
A couple of amusing election Tweets I've seen.
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David Mills The Tories have lost more flagships than the Russian navy.
https://twitter.com/DavidMills73/sta...64879558463488

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Pete Brown Anticipating events today and over the next few days, I'd just like to reassure my American followers that "Johnson out" doesn't mean what you think it does.
https://twitter.com/PeteBrownBeer/st...00200052449283

GrimUpNorth 06-05-2022 14:13

Re: Local Elections 2022
 
The ward I look after went Green yesterday - the (very very) long standing Labour Cllr standing for re-election is out. The Greens put in a big effort in the ward and while I was on my rounds between polling stations there were lots of people wearing green rosettes and I heard many people saying they thought it was time for a change.


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