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Mick 17-03-2022 11:28
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36116773)
Since the UK lost its legal case to not pay the monies in 2009, then yes I do blame this Government.
Then why didn’t the Labour Party pay it, Tories was not in power?



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Originally Posted by ianch99
shouldn't be surprised that you do not blame this Government's deliberate policy of not repaying a legally sanctioned debt and so prolonging the imprisonment of an innocent woman.
The only people responsible for this woman’s ordeal and prolonging it, was Iran, who arrested her on dubious charges and then sentenced her on zero evidence. To then use an historical debt as ransom, for her release.

Bit pathetic really to consistently, have-a-go, at this government, as usual, because of, shock horror, they are guilty as charged for everything, because this really persistently stems to complete and utter venomous hatred of all things, Brexit.

TheDaddy 17-03-2022 11:42
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36116781)
Then why didn’t the Labour Party pay it, Tories was not in power?
The court cases weren't settled when labour were in power...

OLD BOY 17-03-2022 11:50
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36116773)
Since the UK lost its legal case to not pay the monies in 2009, then yes I do blame this Government.



I shouldn't be surprised that you do not blame this Government's deliberate policy of not repaying a legally sanctioned debt and so prolonging the imprisonment of an innocent woman.
So you would have broken the sanctions in place? Interesting.

Mick 17-03-2022 11:56
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36116783)
The court cases weren't settled when labour were in power...
He said 2009 when case was lost, so yes, Labour were very much in power, in 2009.

TheDaddy 17-03-2022 12:03
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36116790)
He said 2009 when case was lost, so yes, Labour were very much in power, in 2009.
Think he has his dates confused

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36116786)
So you would have broken the sanctions in place? Interesting.
We control our sanctions policy now and no one would have objected, the Americans did the same for their citizens

pip08456 17-03-2022 12:17
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The court cases weren't settled when labour were in power...
You sure about that?

papa smurf 17-03-2022 12:45
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Didn't Brown have something to do with the nations finances prior to becoming prime minister, just asking for a friend;)

TheDaddy 17-03-2022 12:47
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36116796)
Yes, certain

BenMcr 17-03-2022 12:52
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36116781)
Then why didn’t the Labour Party pay it, Tories was not in power?
Because they already had prepared to do it but couldn't complete the transfer I think? This story is from April 2010, shortly before the election

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...m-1952972.html

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The Independent can reveal that Britain is to pay back nearly £400m to Iran’s defence ministry after finally admitting defeat in the dispute in a move that will be heralded by Tehran as a major diplomatic triumph while it continues its international brinkmanship with the West over its nuclear ambitions.

Financial restrictions imposed by the European Union on Iranian banks, which freeze any of Tehran’s assets held abroad, mean that Iran will not be able to access the funds. They will instead be held in a trust account overseen by independent trustees. The money will join £976m of Iranian assets already frozen in Britain.
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The MoD insisted that the pay out will not come from its own stretched budget. In anticipation of a defeat as far back as 2002, Britain paid nearly £486m into the High Court to meet the cost of any settlement.

spiderplant 17-03-2022 12:53
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36116754)
Still, I suppose I shouldnt be surprised you blame our "government"
Well this didn't help
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...ther-mgbt80xj9

ianch99 17-03-2022 13:29
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36116781)
Then why didn’t the Labour Party pay it, Tories was not in power?

The only people responsible for this woman’s ordeal and prolonging it, was Iran, who arrested her on dubious charges and then sentenced her on zero evidence. To then use an historical debt as ransom, for her release.

Bit pathetic really to consistently, have-a-go, at this government, as usual, because of, shock horror, they are guilty as charged for everything, because this really persistently stems to complete and utter venomous hatred of all things, Brexit.
Ranting about Brexit does not change the facts. She could have been freed years ago if the UK had paid the legally sanctioned debt.

Do you think that the UK government in power after 2009 should have paid the then legally acknowledged debt? Ben Wallace certainly thought so in 2020 ..

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36116786)
So you would have broken the sanctions in place? Interesting.
Not really interesting as I never said that. Keep up

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36116790)
He said 2009 when case was lost, so yes, Labour were very much in power, in 2009.
The European Union had placed sanctions on Iran in June 2008, so no payment could be made under the Labour government.

Carth 17-03-2022 14:17
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Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe and Anoosheh Ashoori have been reunited with their families in the UK after years of detention in Iran.


On this joyous occasion, cable forum goes into hysterics with the 'finger of blame' arguments . . . again :rolleyes:

Hugh 17-03-2022 15:26
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Some people are just naturally miserable gits,they are never happy :(
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2022/03/4.jpg

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36116813)
Some people are just naturally miserable gits,they are never happy :(

And some people are boring smart arses.
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That triple jabbed superiority didn't last long :)
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36116408)
Funnily enough, no one on here displayed what you’re implying; it’s almost as if you’re making stuff up…
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36116410)
Glib one-liners, mostly

Paul 17-03-2022 17:11
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36116773)
Since the UK lost its legal case to not pay the monies in 2009, then yes I do blame this Government. .
You are truely hilarious.
Firstly, governments since the 1990's have been disputing it.
Secondly, "this" government were not in power in 2009 (Labour were). :dozey:

You "blame the government" (or should I say conservatives) for everything.

Yesterday it was raining, the governments fault I expect. :rolleyes:

Maggy 17-03-2022 21:21
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I don’t care who is responsible. I am more concerned that yet again a poor innocent victim has been denied her freedom and the government probably won’t take responsibility and compensate her and her family in any fashion.


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