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Sephiroth 24-11-2021 22:42

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36102291)
Spot on

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Nothing snide about pointing out someone being paid for a full time job and only doing it part time. Just show the contempt he holds for his constituents. 50 hours a month is getting on for 25% of his time. Disgraceful.

Shows that you could put a blue rosette on a hat stand and it would get in, in some parts of the country ..

What a disgraceful thing to say. Typical "running dog" stuff with those who are so falsely sanctimonious without knowing the people being criticised.

I can only speak to JR in this context; he is a very diligent constituency MP, His voting record in Parliament is high; he asks questions and makes speeches/interventions.

As to your stupid "hat stand" remark, even you know that's nonsense.

1andrew1 24-11-2021 22:50

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36102199)
I think Gove is underrated as a candidate. He seems pretty level headed and competent so he may provide a good contrast to Johnson. I think there are a few candidates that styled themselves as the Tory warriors in a culture war and that doesn't lend itself well to the position of PM.

Sunak is the one people keep mentioning but that's because he was paying loads of people's wages for nearly two years. His popularity will decline as that becomes history and tax raises are met with the infrastructure cuts his Government are pushing at the same time. The tax rise has already made it a bit more difficult for him amongst the Tory base.

Gove is an intellectual and political heavyweight. But I fear he's been too involved in Brexit so would be less credible when setting out an agenda to solve its problems.

OLD BOY 25-11-2021 08:11

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36102245)

At some point someone has to deliver a solution to Article 16 and deliver on the "levelling up" agenda.

That's an easy one. Ditch the 'deal'. The disadvantages seem to be outweighing the advantages.

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36102271)
Seems that the good people of Wokingham have a part-time MP. Maybe they should ask for some of their money back? ;)

And yet, the strange thing is, whenever I have written to him, and whenever anyone I know contacts him, he responds very quickly and raises issues in the House as well. Strange, that.

Some people are good at multi-tasking and selecting a good team to assist.

Maggy 25-11-2021 09:19

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
Probably has an excellent secretary..with all that extra dosh.

papa smurf 25-11-2021 09:26

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36102326)
Probably has an excellent secretary..with all that extra dosh.

probably on minimum wage.

TheDaddy 25-11-2021 14:37

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36102297)
What a disgraceful thing to say. Typical "running dog" stuff with those who are so falsely sanctimonious without knowing the people being criticised.

I can only speak to JR in this context; he is a very diligent constituency MP, His voting record in Parliament is high; he asks questions and makes speeches/interventions.

As to your stupid "hat stand" remark, even you know that's nonsense.

The thing I take most from Deadwood, Cox and the rest of their ilk is that being an MP isn't a real job and that's pretty sad really, I mean how can it be a real job and you serve your constituents interests when you can jet of for weeks on end or devote a quarter of your time to other peoples interests

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36102298)
Gove is an intellectual and political heavyweight. But I fear he's been too involved in Brexit so would be less credible when setting out an agenda to solve its problems.

Gove should be the poster boy for the Conservative party considering his upbringing, the fact he isn't says more about his character than the party

ianch99 25-11-2021 16:03

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36102413)
The thing I take most from Deadwood, Cox and the rest of their ilk is that being an MP isn't a real job and that's pretty sad really, I mean how can it be a real job and you serve your constituents interests when you can jet of for weeks on end or devote a quarter of your time to other peoples interests

You are spot on. You & I would not be able to do this in our jobs so why the special treatment for them? Imagine if a prospective MP stood up at a hustings and said "if you vote for me, I will dedicate a full 75% of my time to this constituency" :)

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36102313)
And yet, the strange thing is, whenever I have written to him, and whenever anyone I know contacts him, he responds very quickly and raises issues in the House as well. Strange, that.

Some people are good at multi-tasking and selecting a good team to assist.

Just think how good he would be if he did his job full time.

Sephiroth 25-11-2021 16:13

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36102439)
You are spot on. You & I would not be able to do this in our jobs so why the special treatment for them? Imagine if a prospective MP stood up at a hustings and said "if you vote for me, I will dedicate a full 75% of my time to this constituency" :)

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Just think how good he would be if he did his job full time.

There's something really wrong with your thinking.

You don't know JR; I've known him for 25 years. This thread has the benefit of two of JR's constituents who have explained why he is a highly respected MP in Wokingham.



Paul 25-11-2021 16:15

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36102450)
There's something really wrong with your thinking.

He hates conservatives, and cant see past that.

ianch99 25-11-2021 18:56

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36102451)
He hates conservatives, and cant see past that.

Do you think MP's should work full-time or part-time when they are elected? It's a simple question

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36102450)
There's something really wrong with your thinking.

You don't know JR; I've known him for 25 years. This thread has the benefit of two of JR's constituents who have explained why he is a highly respected MP in Wokingham.

Sorry, two Conservative supporting constituents think it is ok for a Conservative MP to work part time is validation? I think not ..

Answer this question please: if he was in any other job, would he be allowed to work part-time when he was recruited as a full time employee?

pip08456 25-11-2021 19:03

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
MP's are not full time employees.

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Members of Parliament are Office holders and are not employees of the
House of Commons. There is no statutory job description for MPs. The
Code of Conduct for Members of Parliament provides assistance. The
purpose of the Code is "to assist Members in the discharge of their
obligations to the House, their constituents and the public at large".
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque..._of_employment

Sephiroth 25-11-2021 19:50

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36102497)
Do you think MP's should work full-time or part-time when they are elected? It's a simple question

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Sorry, two Conservative supporting constituents think it is ok for a Conservative MP to work part time is validation? I think not ..

Answer this question please: if he was in any other job, would he be allowed to work part-time when he was recruited as a full time employee?

John Redwood has nothing to do with you. I wouldn't support nor vote for him if he didn't provide me with the representational service that I expect. That, and only that, validates his status. OB has likewise validated.

JR has a 91% voting attendance in voting since December 2019.

https://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php...p/member/42198

You don't know what you're talking about; not now and never did over Brexit because you don't understand the fundamentals of British democracy (i.e. the Referendum result).

ianch99 25-11-2021 20:33

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36102505)
John Redwood has nothing to do with you. I wouldn't support nor vote for him if he didn't provide me with the representational service that I expect. That, and only that, validates his status. OB has likewise validated.

JR has a 91% voting attendance in voting since December 2019.

https://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php...p/member/42198

You don't know what you're talking about; not now and never did over Brexit because you don't understand the fundamentals of British democracy (i.e. the Referendum result).

You won, get over it. Let's not dwell in the past, eh? The name calling is beneath you. Let's focus instead on the train wreck this country is fast becoming. You seem content to accept what the Tories are doing to this country and the direction they are taking it, I am not. It is a simple decision to make.

You hide behind the "fundamentals of British democracy" when this Government is literally, as we speak, dismantling it.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36102499)

I never said he was.

Let me ask you this question, the one that people are struggling to answer:

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Should your MP work full time in the job you elected him or her to carry out?

Sephiroth 25-11-2021 20:35

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36102510)
You won, get over it. Let's not dwell in the past, eh? The name calling is beneath you. Let's focus instead on the train wreck this country is fast becoming. You seem content to accept what the Tories are doing to this country and the direction they are taking it, I am not. It is a simple decision to make.

You hide behind the "fundamentals of British democracy" when this Government is literally, as we speak, dismantling it.

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I never said he was.

Let me ask you this question, the one that people are struggling to answer:


I'm no fan of Boris. This country is badly governed at the moment. Read my past posts.

The question? I've already answered that question. I'm satisfied with JR and don't question his evening activities.


Paul 25-11-2021 20:36

Re: Has the 'Peppa Pig' Prime Minister lost the plot or is this just a hiccup?
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36102497)
Do you think MP's should work full-time or part-time when they are elected? It's a simple question

Its also an irrelevant question.


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