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Angua 29-01-2021 16:26

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 36068626)
You are either born a boy or a girl. Two genders.

Scientifically inaccurate.

There are people with extra X or Y chromosomes.

Sephiroth 29-01-2021 16:30

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 36068626)
You are either born a boy or a girl. Two genders.

Head squarely on shoulders.


Paul 29-01-2021 17:56

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 36068626)
You are either born a boy or a girl. Two genders.

Abnormalities are perfectly possible, and do happen (as above).
Even so, you must still technically be one or the other, there is no 3rd human gender.

(Fun Fact: You must have an X chromosome to survive).

Hugh 29-01-2021 18:20

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 36068626)
You are either born a boy or a girl. Two genders.

Two sexes, not genders - whilst the terms are often used interchangebly, scientifically, they are different.

Sex - biological (male or female, with occasional exceptions such as hermaphrodites/intersex)

Gender - social construct relating to behaviours and characteristics

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/envir...der/2019-02-21
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Sex and gender are different concepts that are often used interchangeably. The UK government refers to sex as being biologically defined, and gender as a social construct that is an internal sense of self, whether an individual sees themselves as a man or a woman, or another gender identity. They encompass many different identities and may be non-binary (that is, not a man or a woman).

Sephiroth 29-01-2021 18:47

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
So - sex vs gender is like apples vs oranges.

That's OK. Trans are either male or female; simples.

Thus, public toilets are differentiate by sex not gender. Get my drift?



Hugh 29-01-2021 20:13

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
It must make life so much easier when you have a binary* view of life...

*snigger

Sephiroth 29-01-2021 20:25

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
My logic is impeccable and, of course, you haven't been able to refute it.

Pierre 29-01-2021 22:01

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36068646)
Two sexes, not genders - whilst the terms are often used interchangebly, scientifically, they are different.

True, but “gender dysphoria” usually relates to male/masculine, female/feminine and the
incongruence between one’s sex assigned at birth and one’s gender identity. Though gender dysphoria often begins in childhood, some people may not experience it until after puberty or much later. Hence transgender and/or gender reassignment.

We can dance around the subject of gender but it boils down to two.

The notion that there are tens and hundreds is crazy, and pandering to a super minority. Same as the absurd pro-noun issue as calling an individual “they” which is incorrect on every level.

Hugh 29-01-2021 22:24

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36068666)
My logic is impeccable and, of course, you haven't been able to refute it.

Why refute something that’s based on a false premise?

nomadking 29-01-2021 22:25

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Plenty of other examples(fat when not, legs not belonging to them) where people think they're something they're not. Difference is, they are considered to have a mental illness.

Hugh 29-01-2021 22:26

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36068697)
True, but “gender dysphoria” usually relates to male/masculine, female/feminine and the
incongruence between one’s sex assigned at birth and one’s gender identity. Though gender dysphoria often begins in childhood, some people may not experience it until after puberty or much later. Hence transgender and/or gender reassignment.

We can dance around the subject of gender but it boils down to two.

The notion that there are tens and hundreds is crazy, and pandering to a super minority. Same as the absurd pro-noun issue as calling an individual “they” which is incorrect on every level.

How does it hurt calling someone by their preferred pronoun?

You lose nothing, and gain their respect by respecting their choice...

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36068711)
Plenty of other examples(fat when not, legs not belonging to them) where people think they're something they're not. Difference is, they are considered to have a mental illness.

Your empathy is matched only by your consideration for others...

Pierre 29-01-2021 22:42

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36068712)
How does it hurt calling someone by their preferred pronoun?

You lose nothing, and gain their respect by respecting their choice

Well two things here:

1. I am happy to refer to people on an individual basis how they wish to be addressed. Even how stupid and totally incongruous to the English language it may be, and I will address people how they wish to be addressed on an individual basis.

2. I will not however be “told” how address another person. I will not conform to compelled speech. Secondly what are these other “genders”? Outside of the male/female/trans I’ll Stretch to Bi ( although that is a sexuality) what are the definitions of the other 94 genders?

Sephiroth 29-01-2021 22:43

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36068710)
Why refute something that’s based on a false premise?

How do you prove that mine is a false premise?

nomadking 29-01-2021 22:53

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36068712)
How does it hurt calling someone by their preferred pronoun?

You lose nothing, and gain their respect by respecting their choice...

---------- Post added at 21:26 ---------- Previous post was at 21:26 ----------


Your empathy is matched only by your consideration for others...

Respect? Which side kicks up one heck of a nasty fuss when the wrong term is allegedly used?


Why is promotion and encouragement of one set of circumstances to be criticised and the promotion and encouragement of a similar type of circumstances not to be criticised?

Paul 30-01-2021 02:21

Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36068712)
How does it hurt calling someone by their preferred pronoun?

You lose nothing, and gain their respect by respecting their choice...

You may refer to me as "your highness" in future. :D


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