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denphone 23-05-2020 10:46
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36036194)
So the facts are he did nothing illegal and broke no rules,Thanks for clearing that up Den:tu:
Are you not forgetting a few things papa.

Here are a few reminders for you as remember these are not my words but the words of the PM and government ministers.

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Announcing school closures at a Downing Street briefing on 18 March, Boris Johnson urged families not to turn to older relatives to look after children.
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He said: “Children should not be left with older grandparents or older relatives who may be particularly vulnerable. I know that’s going to be difficult too and I want to thank families for their sacrifice at this difficult time.”
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At a No 10 briefing on 27 April, the health secretary, Matt Hancock, said: “We understand the impact of not being able to hug your closest family. It affects us all too. We just hope we can get back to that as soon as possible. The best way we can get there, the fastest way, is for people to follow the rules.”
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Even now that lockdown rules have been eased slightly, visiting friends or family in their own homes is still off-limits. The current guidance states: “As with before, you cannot visit friends and family in their homes.”
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“If you are showing coronavirus symptoms, or if you or any of your household are self-isolating, you should stay at home - this is critical to staying safe and saving lives.”

Pierre 23-05-2020 10:47
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Regardless of whether he was right or wrong, the veracity and ferociousness of the opposition parties hatred to him. It would just be easier if he laid low for a few months

daveeb 23-05-2020 10:49
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36036197)
Are you not forgetting a few things papa.

Here are a few reminders for you as remember these are not my words but the words of the PM and government ministers.
It doesn't seem to apply to politicians and unelected bureaucrats just the rest of us. :erm:

jfman 23-05-2020 10:50
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36036198)
Regardless of whether he was right or wrong, the veracity and ferociousness of the opposition parties hatred to him. It would just be easier if he laid low for a few months
Ah, so right and wrong aren't important any more so long as the Government makes it through.

papa smurf 23-05-2020 10:53
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36036198)
Regardless of whether he was right or wrong, the veracity and ferociousness of the opposition parties hatred to him. It would just be easier if he laid low for a few months
There is a culture of hatred and bullying involved in this witch hunt, no doubt because of his involvement in Brexit.

denphone 23-05-2020 10:54
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36036198)
Regardless of whether he was right or wrong, the veracity and ferociousness of the opposition parties hatred to him. It would just be easier if he laid low for a few months
As you stated in a previous post if he resigns he will come back in a few months anyway but at this given moment his position is untenable.

He has to do the honourable thing and resign.

Sephiroth 23-05-2020 10:57
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36036196)
The need to protect the family? They weren’t in danger any more or less than any other family self isolating for 14 days. The whole point of the guidance was so you could only spread it among yourselves.
C'mon, jfman. I would have expected you above many others to project an objective view.

I don't know whether or not you have children - but putting myself into a similar situation when mine were young, and knowing how flu lays you very low, looking after a young child would be my greatest worry. I'd have zoomed off to the mother in law's gaff in Rutland and in present circumstances would have found a way of isolating in one bedroom.

denphone 23-05-2020 10:58
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36036201)
There is a culture of hatred and bullying involved in this witch hunt, no doubt because of his involvement in Brexit.
What a complete load of rubbish as Brexit has nothing to do with it apart from a few malcontents still pontificating as Brexit is happening now one hundred per cent no matter who is in power.

papa smurf 23-05-2020 10:58
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36036202)
As you stated in a previous post if he resigns he will come back in a few months anyway but at this given moment his position is untenable.

He has to do the honourable thing and resign.
He's not an MP he's just a working man.
Should every working person lose their job because some people mistakenly think they broke a lockdown rule?

Sephiroth 23-05-2020 10:58
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36036200)
Ah, so right and wrong aren't important any more so long as the Government makes it through.
Stop it, my friend. Cummings' only consideration was for his child.

papa smurf 23-05-2020 11:00
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36036205)
What a complete load of rubbish as Brexit has nothing to do with it apart from a few malcontents still pontificating as Brexit is happening now one hundred per cent no matter who is in power.
Revenge is still on peoples minds you just won't accept it as the reason to want him gone.

denphone 23-05-2020 11:05
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36036208)
Revenge is still on peoples minds you just won't accept it as the reason to want him gone.
And l am not sure you understand the governments own Coronavirus advice whether it was from the Prime Minister or government ministers.

The populace understood it well so why can't you...

Sephiroth 23-05-2020 11:13
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36036209)
And l am not sure you understand the governments own Coronavirus advice whether it was from the Prime Minister or government ministers.

The populace understood it well so why can't you...
Don't you need to take into account a family's confliction with the Guvmin's advice? In the end it is for parents to decide how to protect their children.

This witch hunt just because of Cummings' political profile is a poor show.

papa smurf 23-05-2020 11:19
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36036210)
Don't you need to take into account a family's confliction with the Guvmin's advice? In the end it is for parents to decide how to protect their children.

This witch hunt just because of Cummings' political profile is a poor show.
And the fact that there is provision in the law covering this situation,if a law had been broken the police would have prosecuted and no 10 would not issue a statement saying no rules or laws have been broken.

Your right it is a poor show but did you expect anything else.

denphone 23-05-2020 11:21
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36036212)
And the fact that there is provision in the law covering this situation,if a law had been broken the police would have prosecuted and no 10 would not issue a statement saying no rules or laws have been broken.

Your right it is a poor show but did you expect anything else.
So you obviously think No.10 considers Dominic Cumming's career far more important that the viability of its lock-down strategy then papa?.


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