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jfman 05-01-2020 18:05

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36022069)
As far as the Kurds are concerned, everybody that isn't Kurdish is foreign. It's a case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

A bit like the United States approach in the Middle East supporting the Taliban and Saddam?

Mick 05-01-2020 19:09

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BREAKING: Iranian state TV reports Iran will no longer abide by any Uranium limits of its 2015 nuclear deal. www.apne.ws/4Sji74x

Chris 05-01-2020 19:10

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36022071)
BREAKING: Iranian state TV reports Iran will no longer abide by any Uranium limits of its 2015 nuclear deal. www.apne.ws/4Sji74x

Because up til now they were absolutely abiding by it. To the letter ...

papa smurf 05-01-2020 19:11

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36022071)
BREAKING: Iranian state TV reports Iran will no longer abide by any Uranium limits of its 2015 nuclear deal. www.apne.ws/4Sji74x

Before you know it one of them will throw a flip flop at a picture of Trump.

Mick 05-01-2020 19:28

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@NYTimes: “Officials presented the president with options. The Pentagon tacked on the choice of targeting Suleimani mainly to make other options seem reasonable. They didn’t think he would take it. When Mr. Trump chose the option, military officials, flabbergasted, were alarmed.”

Taf 05-01-2020 19:45

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36022067)
The Kurds aren't foreign forces or aligned with ISIS. :confused:

Many of the Kurds come from Turkey and Iran, and I may have missed a comma to separate them from "foreign forces aligned with ISIS".

deadite66 05-01-2020 19:46

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As Hillary said you have a private position and a public position, i wonder what the Iraq government wants in private.

nomadking 05-01-2020 19:49

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So what could these multitude of "other options" have possibly been?:rolleyes: Pretty much boils down to kill or capture.

1andrew1 05-01-2020 19:53

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36022078)
@NYTimes: “Officials presented the president with options. The Pentagon tacked on the choice of targeting Suleimani mainly to make other options seem reasonable. They didn’t think he would take it. When Mr. Trump chose the option, military officials, flabbergasted, were alarmed.”

Sounds like they're suggesting a bit of a misjudgment on the Pentagon's part.

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36022082)
So what could these multitude of "other options" have possibly been?:rolleyes: Pretty much boils down to kill or capture.

It says they did not involve targeting Suleimani.

nomadking 05-01-2020 20:32

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36022083)
Sounds like they're suggesting a bit of a misjudgment on the Pentagon's part.

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It says they did not involve targeting Suleimani.

So what could these multitude of other options have been? 1) Leave him alone, achieving little. 2) Capture him. Difficult, dangerous, and doesn't achieve anything. If the Pentagon didn't want to take some sort of action, there was no need to tell the President anything. It would've been "business as usual".

Uncle Peter 05-01-2020 20:45

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There's always the possibility that the Israelis were going to take him out if the Americans didn't which would have been less palatable for the likes of Jordan, Saudi and the other Sunni Arab states.

Damien 05-01-2020 22:20

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Iraq has voted for US and UK army to leave. It seems we're unhappy about this especially as ISIS still remains a concern.

Mick 05-01-2020 22:42

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36022095)
Iraq has voted for US and UK army to leave. It seems we're unhappy about this especially as ISIS still remains a concern.

The vote was non-binding. We won’t be leaving anytime soon. In Iraq, there are pro-Iran forces at play and none of the Anti-Iran Iraqi MPs bothered to show up to vote today. Today’s vote was all for show.

mrmistoffelees 05-01-2020 22:59

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36022072)
Because up til now they were absolutely abiding by it. To the letter ...

Evidence suggests they were

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2019...g-nuclear-deal

1andrew1 05-01-2020 23:12

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36022085)
So what could these multitude of other options have been? 1) Leave him alone, achieving little. 2) Capture him. Difficult, dangerous, and doesn't achieve anything. If the Pentagon didn't want to take some sort of action, there was no need to tell the President anything. It would've been "business as usual".

"It says they did not involve targeting Suleimani" so let's exclude him.
So other options include:
- Target other individuals
- Target Iranian infrastructure physically
- Target Iraninan infrastructure technolologically


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