Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36013834)

So squaring the circle l would hazard a guess that several million voters don't have any of those two so unless there are other ways of confirming their identification that rules them out of casting their democratic vote.

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36013843)

The only thing I can see this achiving is a much lower turnout.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36013852)

What is going to happen is a load of people are going to go to the polls unaware of this new policy and be turned away. There will be public information campaigns but they won't reach everyone.

The attempts to process the applications for council provided photo-id cards will be expensive and error-prone with many people falling inbetween administrative gaps because the council will be missing various details on many of the applications because the bureaucracy is a mess and we don't have a central database of citizens. Besides given the messes over the EU Settlement Scheme and Windrush how many people do you think trust the Government on these matters? Want to go look at how many European Citizens entitled to vote were turned away at the last European election?

So come the first election with this new system we'll see scandals over the applications at first and then scandals over it's implementation on voting day. This is going to be an expensive and bureaucratic nightmare in the making to fix a problem that doesn't exist.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36013861)

Sorry, I was interrupted and didn’t fully explain myself. I also read that compulsory voting was being promoted, and this is what will, I believe, increase the Labour vote.

The ID thing is easily overcome.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36013926)

20 million quid extra again iirc per national election

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 36013938)

I am a strong Labour voter.

But sadly, if there is a general election before December. Which l believe their will be.

One thing is for certain.

I am, NOT voting Labour. We all know that Momentum party pull Corbyn strings. I am not voting for man that is a ****.

I will vote Lib Dems

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Editoral **** is not a swear word

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For members. The word l have used begins with a 'T'

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36013953)

I wouldn't carry an ID card. I know who I am and shouldn't need to prove it.

Passports, licences etc are entitlement cards to show that you are UK citizen, can drive etc.

Why should you need to prove who you are to vote, you can "prove" that you can vote in an area because you are on "the list"? Maybe taking the polling card should be compulsory but even then...

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36013953)

I wouldn't carry an ID card. I know who I am and shouldn't need to prove it.

Passports, licences etc are entitlement cards to show that you are UK citizen, can drive etc.

Why should you need to prove who you are to vote, you can "prove" that you can vote in an area because you are on "the list"? Maybe taking the polling card should be compulsory but even then...

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36013961)

I really don't understand your objection. The ID card would not be for the purpose of proving to yourself who you were!

It is prove to others that you are who you say you are.

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36013970)

I have no real objection to an ID card, if its free.

I would swap my driving licence for a photo one if they did it free, but they want to charge me - not happening.

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36013972)

I have to show my ID if I'm picking up a parcel from the Post Office. Electing a person to office.....it's not unreasonable to be held to the same standard.