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TheDaddy 04-02-2021 06:20

Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
Interesting developments, she never even had diplomatic immunity, I'm glad his family found the strength to fight on but then what else could they do really, giving up was never an option imho

1andrew1 04-02-2021 09:03

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36069347)
Interesting developments, she never even had diplomatic immunity, I'm glad his family found the strength to fight on but then what else could they do really, giving up was never an option imho

These are the developments I believe you are referencing
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Harry Dunn's alleged killer Anne Sacoolas was an intelligence worker, her lawyer confirms
Harry Dunn's family launch a civil case for damages against Anne Sacoolas after the collision that killed 19-year-old Harry.
https://news.sky.com/story/harry-dun...firms-12208134
No surprise that she did not have diplomatic immunity - why else woud she have left the UK so quickly?

Russ 04-02-2021 09:53

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It just shows how much contempt yankland has for the laws of other countries.

Mick 04-02-2021 12:44

Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36069351)
These are the developments I believe you are referencing

https://news.sky.com/story/harry-dun...firms-12208134
No surprise that she did not have diplomatic immunity - why else woud she have left the UK so quickly?

One other tidbit of a development which I’m not surprised you had zero criticism for:-

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US presidents Donald Trump and Joe Biden have both declined to send her back, saying the US rejection of the extradition request is "final"

TheDaddy 04-02-2021 15:11

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36069399)
One other tidbit of a development which I’m not surprised you had zero criticism for:-

That was a while ago based on either what they knew or what they believed the rest of us knew, it all starts over again now seeing as it came out in open court that she never even had diplomatic immunity, I'm prepared to believe both presidents offices took advice on face value but the state department would have known the truth when they were calling our extradition request egregious

Mick 04-02-2021 18:11

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It’s not starting over. It won’t change any decision to have Sacoolas extradited back to UK. For a start, there is a High Court ruling, that argues Sacoolas did have Diplomatic Immunity based on the Vienna Convention, not a set of words of treaties agreed by the UK or RAF Base in Croughton, that does not supersede it. The U.S State Department now under the Biden Administration ruled only last week, their refusal to extradite is final.

Hugh 04-02-2021 19:20

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The family have been given Leave to appeal against the High Court Diplomatic Immunity ruling.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-55174340

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The parents of Harry Dunn have been granted permission to appeal against a High Court ruling over the diplomatic immunity of his alleged killer.

Mr Dunn, 19, died when his motorbike was in a crash with a car near RAF Croughton, Northamptonshire, in 2019.

The suspect Anne Sacoolas later left for the United States and last week judges accepted she "enjoyed immunity from UK criminal jurisdiction".

The spokesman for Mr Dunn's family said they were "delighted" over the appeal.

Mick 04-02-2021 20:53

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I knew that already, given I know how the judges gave their ruling, based off the Vienna Convention. It won’t change any decision. The U.S won’t extradite Sacoolas, under any circumstances. Either way. They’re certainly not going to care what the UK judicial system comes up with next.

TheDaddy 04-03-2021 06:55

Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
Civil action now given the go ahead to proceed in US, this won't be the last case they bring either

Raab has again brought it up with new Secretary of State to

TheDaddy 21-10-2022 00:35

Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
Sacoolas pled guilty to causing death by careless driving by video link in a UK court yesterday, she'll be sentenced in November

Jaymoss 21-10-2022 09:00

Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
She was never a diplomat either but a spy of some sort


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