Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

Doesn't the ruling say that providers of a service are not allowed to deny that service for those expressing views that are against the beliefs of the providers?

Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

That could be OK but the provider should be allowed to deny to provide a service that promotes a view to which they disagree with.

Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

Wonder if the same would have happened if it had been a muslim baker rather than a Christian one... just putting it out there, funny how some religions trump the law, and other don't. Strange that.

Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

Well that's the thing, isn't it. The ruling appears to have extended the tendrils of regulation into areas of behaviour that nobody considered before. Worth pointing out, however, that it doesn't forbid all moderation of any subject, the law under discussion would only apply to certain specified forms of discrimination, sexuality being one of them.

Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

Is that why CF continues to?... :D

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FGS it's got nothing to do with Trump!

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Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

If you have an example, that would be good.

Otherwise, you are just making stuff up...

Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

How many cases are there where Muslim shop assistants have refused to serve certain items?

Halal slaughtered meat is by LAW, only allowed to consumed by Muslims. Is that enforced? All the Halal-only takeaways should technically only serve meat to Muslims.

Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

you are quoting from the old testament that as loads of laws which no longer apply or apply only to those who accept and believe.

the new testament has loads of references of how we should follow the law of the land.

Romans 13:1-5

Romans 3:31

Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

+1

Making stuff up... ffs I'm not Arthur

Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

i could have wrote out the whole chapter then gone into how it applies but as i was talking about how we should treat others and was mainly replying to some one who is complaining from a religious stand point i didn't feel the need but I am quite willing to do so ;)

my main point is that Christians should treat everyone equally with out discrimination and should follow the law. How God will judge those not of our faith is not up to us.

I can not see how allowing them to do as they wanted to do could in any case do anything but harm as it would lead to those who don't believe in mixed marriage or interfaith marriages then saying they also should be allowed to discriminate and then to other things.

I am all for being allowed to proclaim your faith door to door if you want but we should not be allowed to impose our views on others who don't hold those views

Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

I don't make things up either.

The biggest problem and the most Argumetive problem we have in the UK is quite simple. People are petrified to say the wrong word.
There was a point where the BBC were going to show a new show of Allo Allo, they decided not to show this is case it offended people.

They were going to remake an Alf Garnet show - if they did, this will probably be heavy watered down.

It about time, we were allowed to sat or do what we want. BUT, we cant. As it will offends people.

This couple decided against doing a cake, because it was a for gay couple - against there beliefs.

We cannot say certain words. Years ago, we had a great marmalade. Which had a certain figure on it. The Manufacturers bowed to pressure and took it off.

This started years ago with a certain Mary Whitehouse, who stick her oar in. And there used to be a fantastic called The Black and White Minstrel Show. This was axed because, certainly people took offence to what the stars were wearing.

For Christ sake Britain. Grow up for heavens sake

Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

Re your post - Muslim baker example would be nice...

Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

So, the Ten Commandments - just Old Testament stuff that no longer applies?

Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

Superseded by the beattitudes, from the mouth of Jesus himself iirc

Re: Bakers who refused to make 'gay cake' say they felt 'victimised'
 

That brand of marmalade is just as great as it ever was with or without the golliwog..There see I can say it..it's not a term of abuse these days. As for the show thank goodness it's gone.It was awful and it made me cringe.