Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

I'm inclined to agree.

Also, lot of people who have left the UK to live elsewhere in the EU are pensioners.

As such, they usually buy their own housing, have an independent income from their UK pensions and don't normally require work.

Many return to the UK if they become very ill or elderly as they prefer our NHS.

This is a complete contrast to the migrants coming here and whilst eg Spain would have a moral argument for sending our pensioners back, they'd be foolish to do so.

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

definitely not ,we already have a points based system for immigrants outside the EU and that works great ...not

any system introduced that allows immigrants in by default because they meet certain criteria is not good ,they must be treated on a case by case basis.

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

The majority of the UK population pay in less than they receive across their lifetimes.

I would imagine this is very area dependent.

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

I would expect it depends how long you live.

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

My bad. The majority pay less per year than they are receiving. About 40% of households only are net contributors.

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

:tu:

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

How many people use the hand car washes that have sprung up all over the country?

My local once charges £5, It doesn't matter what the weather is they are there working. The ones near me are heavily staffed by immigrants who have come over to better themselves.

The service they provide is superb, they even make me a tea or a coffee while I'm waiting

I don't see this work ethic in natives who are at the lower end of the wage sector in the UK

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

I agree, they are following Norman Tebbits advice from the 80's and getting on their bike to find a job, just on a wider scale. Should be admired really

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

Of course its always the easiest option to blame Johnny Foreigner for all this countries ills as is now sadly the case.

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

It's the price we pay for the "Everybody wins prizes" and "You can be anything you want to be" PC nonsense. Some people won't accept that they're only ever going to be menial labour and would rather sit on their backsides watching Jeremy Kyle hoping Macawber like that something will come along.

It's the same culture that lets them get away with it. :rolleyes:

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

I do believe that you if you're prepared to work/sacrifice (and i mean work and sacrifice) that in the vast majority of cases you can improve your circumstances. But there are a tiny minority who for whatever reason will be stuck in the low paid labour sector.

I think the biggest problem in our society lies with the belief that a vast majority of people (IMHO) think that they are entitled to things such as LED TV's Sky and/or Virgin (You can of course argue that internet is a basic human right) without putting in the required effort or sacrifice.

A lack of work ethic & a sense of self entitlement. BUT it's very easy for me to say that.

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

:tu:

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

Those same people get right on my wick. I wouldn't let them near my car. I can clean my own car and I don't do it in the rain. Duh. Meanwhile I have to put up with them interrupting me when I go shopping and making tea in spaces that are there for parking. Or they want to squeegee my windscreen; will their insurance cover any inadvertent damage btw? :sleep:.

You don't see that 'work ethic' in the natives because the natives are no longer slave to the gentry. You're perpetuating a social class you claim to abhor.

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

These "car washers" are up to the same trick as the "scrap metal collectors" and "Big Issue vendors".

Access to Benefits by doing a menial job for the minimum hours required, all at income levels that mean no Income Tax.

So a year of menial work, then you can sit back and rake it all in....

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Old, but still true...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-benefit.html

Re: Should EU migrants be made to leave the UK?
 

Horses for courses. I sometimes clean my car. and in winter even if it is raining the car gets cleaned once a week salt build up etc.

The only thing I abhor is that the percentage of people in the UK who whinge about people 'coming over here, taking our jobs' would at best last a day doing the work in the conditions that migrants work in.

I certainly couldn't do it.

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So, therefore they just setup the car washes, work for a year. then they close so they can claim benefits, is that the suggestion? If so, have any evidence to support it?