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rogerdraig 01-09-2016 21:35

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35857283)
Does reassessment include means-testing or is it a physical capability reassessment only?

no means testing just a testing of whether you can answer the unasked questions

RichardCoulter 02-09-2016 14:59

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw (Post 35857163)
I believe it, I know several people who have lost their cars so I've no reason to assume Paralympians are any different.

Indeed. Lots of disabled people are having their mobility component reduced or stopped, leading to many losing their Motability vehicle.

In some cases this has led to people having to give up work and/or becoming housebound.

Between 400 and 500 motability cars are said to be being taken away from disabled people every week.

It is estimated that 40% of people will lose their cars, down from 1 million to 600,000.

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35857283)
Does reassessment include means-testing or is it a physical capability reassessment only?

There were plans mooted to tax or means test the benefit, but thus far nothing concrete has surfaced.

They have basically changed the goalposts in order to justify these benefit cuts.

On DLA a 50 yard test was the norm, with PIP it's been reduced to 20 metres (nearly 22 yards), enabling the Government to say how they are rooting out people who shouldn't have ever been on the benefit.

Maggy 07-10-2016 12:19

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35857101)
But if you are in a position to fund your mobility and indeed have a career that literally celebrates your mobility, why do you need DLA?

The silence is deafening in here :sleep:.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/disability-sport/37544372

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In 2014, I raced 53 times and won a total of £6,000 in prize money. That's not a lot. I am fortunate I get National Lottery funding, which is fantastic and an amazing help, but that just about covers my annual sporting costs. That's partly why I still live with my mum and dad.

Luckily, I've also got great sponsors, something all athletes really struggle to find and many don't have, but I wouldn't say I make money - mostly it goes on fuel, hotels, equipment, and by the end of the year I just about break even.


Kursk 08-10-2016 01:53

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35862343)

So Hannah likes her chosen career, gets enabling lottery funding, sponsorship and allowances, but feels she should be paid more?

There are plenty of young people living with mum and dad who have low paid jobs, no supplementary funding, no chance of their own home, no personal transport, and no shiny medals to boot.

As Hannah says herself, she is not hard done by.

Pierre 08-10-2016 07:45

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35862343)

What's your point?

Maggy 08-10-2016 08:09

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35862487)
What's your point?

I think you understand very well what the point is..

Kursk 08-10-2016 08:59

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35862489)
I think you understand very well what the point is..

Actually, I didn't get the point either so made a comment that was just a polite opportunity for you to elaborate. As Toyah once sang...it's a mystery, it's a mystery... :).

Pierre 08-10-2016 09:51

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35862489)
I think you understand very well what the point is..

I didn't otherwise I wouldn't be asking.

So I ask again, what point are you trying to make with that post.

RichardCoulter 08-10-2016 13:18

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35857101)
But if you are in a position to fund your mobility and indeed have a career that literally celebrates your mobility, why do you need DLA?

The silence is deafening in here :sleep:.

The whole premise of DLA etc is that wider society should help towards the extra costs incurred because some people are unfortunate enough to have become disabled in some way- regardless of a person's income.

To ensure that this contribution was not eroded, it was made tax free and ignored as income for the purposes of calculating means tested benefits.

Apart from the considerations of the previous Cameron Government, this has always had the support of every Government of every colour since it's introduction in the seventies.

Most people in society will benefit from this as most people will either become disabled themselves or know someone close to them that will.

Statistics show that most of us will become disabled at some point in our lives through attack, disease, accident or old age.

Paul 08-10-2016 13:55

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35862489)
I think you understand very well what the point is..

Please explain it to me.

As far as I can see, she has nothing to complain about at all, and is better off than many young people. My daughter had to move back home because she could not "break even". She works hard in her job, but rent these days is just stupid.

Pierre 08-10-2016 14:55

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35862516)
The whole premise of DLA etc is that wider society should help towards the extra costs incurred because some people are unfortunate enough to have become disabled in some way- regardless of a person's income.

Bollocks.

If you're wealthy enough that you can afford the extra expense, why should I pay towards it.

Ken W 08-10-2016 15:34

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35862529)
Bollocks.

If you're wealthy enough that you can afford the extra expense, why should I pay towards it.



I assume that you are not disabled.

Pierre 08-10-2016 17:01

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
You assume correctly, but what has that got to do with it.

If you are disabled, but wealthy, why should you get more money from state?

Answer me that.

peanut 08-10-2016 17:07

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35862540)
You assume correctly, but what has that got to do with it.

If you are disabled, but wealthy, why should you get more money from state?

Answer me that.



Ask David Cameron, he claimed DLA for his son.

nomadking 08-10-2016 17:08

Re: Government ‘has stripped Paralympians of their Motability vehicles’
 
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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35862541)
Ask David Cameron, he claimed DLA for his son.

He claimed the Blue Badge that comes with it.


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