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nashville 28-06-2016 21:28

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35846647)
NO, we need a United Parliament to vote on what effects the UK as a whole, but where it only affects England then only English elected MP's should have a vote.

While the UK exists there can only be one overall ruling body, but when things only effect one part of it then only that part should vote on it be it Scotland, England, Wales or N.Ireland.

I agree we cannot allow the U K to split up, I am really worried for Scotland we know Sturgeon is doing her very best to break us up altogether, I want to be Scottish and British, not Scottish and European, God Help Us,

RizzyKing 28-06-2016 21:28

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
Can we get off this racism crap and deal with the real issues.

RBMark 28-06-2016 21:30

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35846762)
Sorry for making you wait, I was at work...


http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...l#post35844802


No problem, I'm a patient guy, an I always have sympathy for shift workers.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35846763)
I agree we cannot allow the U K to split up, I am really worried for Scotland we know Sturgeon is doing her very best to break us up altogether, I want to be Scottish and British, not Scottish and European, God Help Us,


I thought Scotland voted in the majority to remain?

denphone 28-06-2016 21:31

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35846764)
Can we get off this racism crap and deal with the real issues.

+1

Hugh 28-06-2016 21:32

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RBMark (Post 35846765)
No problem, I'm a patient guy, an I always have sympathy for shift workers.

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I thought Scotland voted in the majority to remain?

I don't work shifts

Taf 28-06-2016 21:52

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35846749)
You know as well as I do that what we've got doesn't even resemble a 'parliament'.

"They" have very recently demanded that the name of the talking shop be changed to The Welsh Parliament.

Ego boosting I suspect.

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35846760)
Why the hell would I want to tell that to MSPs? They have very little if any influence over my life.

They should have NO influence over your daily life unless you were in Scotland.

Ditto the Welsh Assembly (spit) for anyone outside of Wales.

One day the Northern Ireland Assembly will stop the infighting and start working for the people of Northern Ireland.

So an English body should be formed to deal with purely English matters.

The biggest mistake of the present partition of responsibilities has been the fracturing of the NHS.

nashville 28-06-2016 22:02

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RBMark (Post 35846765)
No problem, I'm a patient guy, an I always have sympathy for shift workers.

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I thought Scotland voted in the majority to remain?

That's what I mean. England would be out and Scotland could in, We must all be as one G B ,

Arthurgray50@blu 28-06-2016 23:49

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
Hugh, don't make matters worse. Or we could end up with a Middlesex Parliament. That will shock everyone. Its just on the borders of rich Surrey

GrimUpNorth 29-06-2016 10:40

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
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Originally Posted by RBMark (Post 35846765)
No problem, I'm a patient guy, an I always have sympathy for shift workers.

Your posting style coupled with the way you can't be bothered or are unable to spell 'and' reminds me so much of another member - now sadly banned and oh so missed by many on here.

Cheers

Grim

ntluser 01-07-2016 18:10

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
It was a big mistake to devolve power to the other countries in the UK in the way they did.

It would have been far cheaper and just as effective if the MPs for England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland took the decisions in respect of their own countries without the need and massive cost of building regional parliaments.

If it had been done that way they would have had more money to spend on dealing with issues in their own country.

Instead we now have the ridiculous situation of the English wanting an English parliament as well as a UK parliament. I wonder if there will be a regional parliament building for this new English parliament. What a waste of money.

richard s 02-07-2016 21:21

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
No matter were you are in the world there will always be some people that are racist.

English and proud time for a British Republic.

Mr K 02-07-2016 21:45

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35846843)
Your posting style coupled with the way you can't be bothered or are unable to spell 'and' reminds me so much of another member - now sadly banned and oh so missed by many on here.

Cheers

Grim

Yes, reminds me of the same person as well Grim. Must be a coincidence....

Ignitionnet 03-07-2016 16:09

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
There's a lot to be said for a Federal UK. The abbreviation is good for starters.

ntluser 03-07-2016 16:31

Re: Time for an English Parliment?
 
Having an English Parliament is as big a waste of money as the creation of all the other devolved parliaments.

It would have been simpler and cheaper if we had English MPs taking the lead on English issues, Scottish MPs leading on Scottish issues, Welsh MPs leading on Welsh issues and Ulster MPs leading on Ulster issues. UK wide issues would involve all MPs.

The money spent building the parliament buildings could have been better spent on dealing with the issues that each nation has identified.

Devolved parliaments are a recipe for a disunited UK.

The problem is similar to the formation of the EU.

In the past Foreign secretaries and their departments negotiated trade deals with other countries.

Now we have the massive and highly expensive EU parliament and infrastructure plus meetings of EU leaders to do the same job.

If we had left things as they were, the money wasted setting up and maintaining the EU could have been spent on actual issues identified by national parliaments.


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