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mrmistoffelees

30-09-2015 14:58

Re: VW accused of 'rigging' emissions tests

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35801103)

How would we know? Is the US too high or the EU too low? Personally given the EU isn't a stranger to Environmental laws whereas America is less keen I would assume the latter has set them too high. In otherwords I assume the EU is more concerned over the Environment than the American congress.

From what i recall i think you're wrong on this....

IIRC

NO2 permitted emissions in the US are something like 30ppm in the EU it's 80ppm

Damien

30-09-2015 15:02

Re: VW accused of 'rigging' emissions tests

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35801104)

From what i recall i think you're wrong on this....

IIRC

NO2 permitted emissions in the US are something like 30ppm in the EU it's 80ppm

Sorry wrong way around. I meant 'Is the US too low or the EU too high?'

rhyds

30-09-2015 15:54

Re: VW accused of 'rigging' emissions tests

The US (And especially California) have always suffered much more from smog than the UK/EU, so that's their main issue. Also, the US introduced items like catalytic converters back in the 1970s, 20 or more years before the UK.

ianch99

30-09-2015 18:53

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Assuming VAG are selling cars with emission figures roughly equivalent to the competition (Renault, Citroen, Honda, Toyota, etc), are these manufacturers hoping the light is not shone in their direction and are as a result keeping very quiet?

Hom3r

09-10-2015 20:33

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A guy at work has one on the list, he's fuming :D

mrmistoffelees

09-10-2015 21:26

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35802849)

A guy at work has one on the list, he's fuming :D

As will his car be (after the recall) ;)

denphone

28-10-2015 09:03

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Ouch!!!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34650233

Osem	03-11-2015 20:47

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VW says it has found "irregularities" in carbon dioxide emissions levels, which could affect around 800,000 cars in Europe.

The firm said the problem, which it came across while investigating diesel emissions, could cost about €2bn (£1.4bn).

Brands including VW, Audi, Skoda and Seat could be affected, a VW spokesman told BBC News.

The issue mainly affects diesels, but could also include petrol models.

The problem lies in the way certain car types with "smaller engines" were certified to meet carbon dioxide emissions standards, the spokesman added.

Oh dear.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34712435

heero_yuy

04-11-2015 11:15

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Now the can of worms on petrol engine's false MPG and emissions claims from all manufacturers is opened. Time for real world testing by an independent body. Getting manufactures to supply test results is an open invitation for lying and cheating.

Which found on recent tests that some vehicles were 40% LESS economical than claimed.

Osem	04-11-2015 12:24

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Real world testing would be a good idea but anyone considering buying a car based on 'economy' really ought to spend a few minutes looking on the internet to get a good idea of the sort of figures other drivers, including professional reviewers, are getting. There are so many variables involved in driving that whatever 'real world' figures are published they'll still be just a guide and there'll be those whose individual circumstances mean they'll never achieve them in practice. One thing's for certain - nobody is ever going to match the figures obtained under controlled conditions in their daily lives but some will get much closer than others.

pip08456

24-04-2016 12:28

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https://conversation.which.co.uk/mon...VWupdate220416

Osem	15-07-2016 08:01

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Volkswagen's failure to compensate UK owners of cars affected by the emissions scandal as they are US owners is "deeply unfair", MPs have said.
UK owners can get affected diesel vehicles repaired, but in the US they can also claim up to $10,000 (£7,400).
The Transport Select Committee also said the government had been too slow to investigate whether VW should be prosecuted in the UK for the scandal.
The government insisted it was pushing the firm "to ensure they take action".
Louise Ellman, the Labour MP who chairs the committee, said VW had "acted cynically" to cheat emissions tests.
"Volkswagen's evidence to us was just not credible but the government has lacked the will to hold VW accountable for its actions," she said.
"There is a real danger that VW will be able to get away with cheating emissions tests in Europe if regulators do not act."
The German giant will offer to repair or buy back the affected diesel vehicles in the US and pay owners between $5,000 and $10,000 in compensation.
But in the UK owners affected have only been offered the option of a repair.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36796829

If I'd been a VW customer I don't think I'd ever be one again.

RizzyKing

17-07-2016 15:31

Re: VW accused of 'rigging' emissions tests

I think an independent body does need to be setup to test vehicles and it should have the power to ban the sale of a vehicle and fine company's for false or misleading information I think the best way to do it is to have the various company's release their vehicle the testing body goes to a garage purchases the vehicle then test it. That way there are no specially built vehicles or cherry picked one's to manipulate testing and consumer's could actually have faith in what they have bought.

martyh

17-07-2016 18:49

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I'm not that bothered ,my VW and all other VW's would give out the same emissions regardless of what the computer says.The only reason most people are up in arms is because there's a chance of free money because most definitely did not buy the car based on the emissions tests .VW new there was not a chance in hell of getting away without financial compensation in the USA, but here there is a chance because the compensation culture isn't as strong .

RizzyKing

17-07-2016 20:45

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I don't know I know a couple of people who took emissions into account last time they bought a car and it was something that swayed their choice and if the information wasn't honest and deserves compensation in the US it deserves it here. I'm not overly bothered myself if people are that bothered by emissions use public transport but if a company is going to do something in one place they can't be too shocked that the public expect it to apply in all areas. If we want honest company's we have to be able to hit them where it hurts.

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