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Kursk 23-09-2015 13:08

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35799274)
Informed, intelligent discussion is based on facts

Informed, intelligent discussion is based on current facts, not old, out-of-date reports.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35799283)
This is the central point of contention. The evidence-based conclusions in the report are *not* merely a personal opinion. Re-phrase it as much as you like, your personal opinion does not weigh the same as evidence-based conclusions.

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Preface

The Joseph Rowntree Foundation has supported this project as part of its programme of research and innovative development projects, which it hopes will be of value to policymakers, practitioners and service users. The facts presented and views expressed in this report are, however, those of the authors and not necessarily those of the Foundation. Neither are the views expressed necessarily those of the other individuals or institutions mentioned here, including the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS), which has no corporate view. Co-funding fromthe ESRC-funded Centre for the Microeconomic Analysis of Public Policy at IFS (grant number RES-544-28-0001) is also gratefully acknowledged.
No need for re-phrasing; it's there in black and white.

Hugh 23-09-2015 13:53

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35799743)
Informed, intelligent discussion is based on current facts , not old, out-of-date reports.

I look forward to you presenting some, as you haven't so far...




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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35799743)
No need for re-phrasing; it's there in black and white.

Yes it is - it states "The facts presented ", not opinions....

Chris 23-09-2015 14:22

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35799743)
No need for re-phrasing; it's there in black and white.

That's a statement of attribution. It tells us the statements are the views of the author, not their employer. It is not an attempt to equate their researched, considered conclusions with the ill-informed opinions of a random internet user.

Kursk 23-09-2015 15:44

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35799756)
I look forward to you presenting some, as you haven't so far...

In relation to current figures, nor have you ;)

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35799773)
It tells us the statements are the views of the author

And the statement I have made is the view of the author ;)

Hugh 23-09-2015 15:59

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35799802)
In relation to current figures, nor have you ;)



And the statement I have made is the view of the author ;)

You made the initial assertion, up to you to back it up.... ;)

Chris 23-09-2015 16:16

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35799802)
And the statement I have made is the view of the author ;)

You can go on avoiding the issue as long as you like - we have proof that the views of Cribb, Emerton and Simieta are based on thorough analysis of available data. We have no proof of what yours are based on.

Thus far, we are entitled to defer to the hard work and expertise of the authors, whilst treating your views as the random, ill-informed opinion of an internet user.

Unless, of course, you are about to impress us with the as-yet unrevealed research material that has informed your opinion?

Kursk 23-09-2015 16:33

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35799811)
You made the initial assertion, up to you to back it up.... ;)

And you countered that assertion with, erm, nothing of relevance. :erm:

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35799823)
You can go on avoiding the issue as long as you like - we have proof that the views of Cribb, Emerton and Simieta are based on thorough analysis of available data.

The available data is no evidence of current figures. That report is useless for informing today's debate and/or today's political decisions. It is the official form of used chip paper. :D

Chris 23-09-2015 16:40

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
You may hold that to be the case - I suspect most people who know anything about the subject, consider it to be current enough to be useful.

Kursk 23-09-2015 17:43

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
A week is a long time in politics. Data in this context that has an ephemeral nature is positively archaic.

People who know anything about the subject of shopping will check their purse just before they buy, not 2 years sooner :)

Chris 23-09-2015 17:44

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
So many posts, so little proof ... ;)

Kursk 23-09-2015 22:41

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35799880)
So many posts, so little proof ... ;)

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35705179)
Absolutely. It's all gash, in the end. :D

And FWIW, I agree with you! :)

Hugh 23-09-2015 22:57

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35798879)
An accurate statement but for completeness it should be qualified against the backdrop of a 4-year public sector pay freeze.

Public sector pay is way behind the private sector, on current figures.

I am glad you agree your proposition regarding "current figures" cannot be substantiated, as you have not provided any.... ;)

Kursk 24-09-2015 01:12

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35799954)
I am glad you agree your proposition regarding "current figures" cannot be substantiated, as you have not provided any.... ;)

Oh for goodness sake Dick and Dom, you win by attrition, now leave me alone already :p:

Hugh 24-09-2015 09:12

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
Actually, I wasn't trying to win, I was looking for any later figures than the ones I found (as I couldn't find any)...

Kursk 24-09-2015 10:31

Re: The Bank of England may have to cut rates to combat low inflation
 
It's not currently in the public domain (if there is any that is :D).

Anecdotal evidence would of course be shot down by you and your evil twin. Also, I've learned not to antagonise too much and on that note...

I'm done :)


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