Originally Posted by mmm (Post 35794750)

Currently in modem mode there is no wireless from SHUB1. Also SHUB1 is only single band either 2.4 or 5, and with internal antennas has pretty lousy range, so there's not be much opportunity to share it from outside your property. But I hope it can be enabled so you get the benefit of sharing when out.

Given the lousy firmware on SHUB1 in routing mode, I find it difficult to believe its going to be touched - wouldn't it be easier to give everyone a Fonera type device?

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35794769)

Using a Fonera-type device, such as mine, piggy-backed on the main router, would make it difficult to run the additional connection in the background wouldn't it? I put this as a question because I am not sure.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35794687)

5GHz is not on offer for VM's "FON" service.

Originally Posted by mmm (Post 35794775)

It would be better for the superhub to provide the open Guest Wifi with internet access by renote authorization, this is a mature function of many commercial routers, needs to be an isolated AP so no access to your local network, I guess VM could get it to use a second internet IP, but I doubt if they can afford to give everyone 2, so maybe some form of vlan tagging?

Originally Posted by mmm (Post 35794775)

I don't see this working in modem mode!

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35794770)

I suspect that this is just an advertising gimmick so that the name Virgin Media pops up on an SSID list as often as BT. Never mind what it does to air wave congestion.

---------- Post added at 10:32 ---------- Previous post was at 10:28 ----------



No - nothing is made difficult in this context by Fonera.

The Superhub 2 can have more than one service flow allocated to it (this was part of the recent firmware change). The new service flow is independent of yours and performs accordingly. So if you haven't opted out of public WiFi then whatever you're doing in your service flow continues and the public WiFi continues as well.

Originally Posted by mmm (Post 35794775)

A Fonera type device connected to a LAN would be double-nat with firewall rules to block local network access and it would difficult to isolate traffic accounting.

Originally Posted by mmm (Post 35794775)

It would be better for the superhub to provide the open Guest Wifi with internet access by renote authorization, this is a mature function of many commercial routers, needs to be an isolated AP so no access to your local network, I guess VM could get it to use a second internet IP, but I doubt if they can afford to give everyone 2, so maybe some form of vlan tagging?
[SEPH]: Somewhat overthought, imo.


I don't see this working in modem mode!
[SEPH]: Correct. Public WiFi is turned off when you are in modem mode. That's fairly obvious since the router functions of the SH2 are disabled.

A Fonera type device connected to a LAN would be double-nat with firewall rules to block local network access and it would difficult to isolate traffic accounting.

Originally Posted by mmm (Post 35794775)

It would be better for the superhub to provide the open Guest Wifi with internet access by renote authorization, this is a mature function of many commercial routers, needs to be an isolated AP so no access to your local network, I guess VM could get it to use a second internet IP, but I doubt if they can afford to give everyone 2, so maybe some form of vlan tagging?

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35794783)

SEPH. Does that mean that VM would run the risk of upsetting those of us who prefer to use a fully-fledged router in modem only mode?

I would have to weigh up the pros and cons of opting into the WiFi scheme.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35794791)

Not quite how I see it, Roughie.

I don't walk down the street Facebooking like many women I see are doing. But I get the point. Those who want to take advantage when out and about can't if they opt out.

As soon as the trial is over, I'm back in modem mode - especially seeing my BQM graph!

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35794787)

Interesting. Given that the "opt out" is on MyVirginMedia, I wonder if modem mode is an easy way to bypass the wifi sharing while still getting to use it?