Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35786713)

The argument is that if you're on that kind of money you should be able to afford to get a mortgage and not be in social housing as it's for those that need it.

Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35786736)

This, it annoys the hell out of me , the council estate at the back of us have recently all had new roofs with solar panels installed (my roof needs doing and I wouldn't be against having solar panels but can't afford it at present). The amount of the property's with really nice and new BMWs and Mercedes, 2 cars on the drive , obviously earning some serious money. I always thought council houses were there to help people struggling to afford their own property , surely as soon as they have a decent job and earn enough they should go private rental or get themselves on the property ladder ?

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35786753)

I knew you would say that you know them:rolleyes: ,

I have security and a good job

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35786753)

I knew you would say that you know them:rolleyes: ,

I pay rent to a private registered landlord that happens to be an LA ,I have security and a good job so the only difference between me and a private landlord is that my house is better maintained and I get a secure tenancy instead of a 6 or 12 month one in a crap hole the landlord refuses to repair .

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Your prejudices are showing again .

My area is very nice thank you ,there are currently 5,000 private and social houses being built a few hundred yards from me ,all on the same site so I bet that really gets up your nose .....council tenants living next to private home owners what is the world coming to :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35786762)

I wonder how many homes are being taken up by those who can afford to rent or buy their own. that could be given to people who need them?
it would take a few off the streets too.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35786748)

Gary for your information council rent levels are already set at local rent levels that include private rental properties ,in other words I already pay the market rate as do most other council tenants ,hence the enormous HB bill
So again I ask you how is my rent subsidised and how is it cheap.

Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35786763)

Why would I not know people around my area ?, one of the houses has at least £60000 worth of cars on the drive but lives in a council owned house , how can this be right ??

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35786764)

i was brought up on a council estate not sure what prejudice i would have, it was and still is a crap hole i wouldn't wish it on anyone i only suggested you might want to better yourself by moving area

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35786723)

This isn't a cut ,it is an increase in social rents targeting those workers who live in social housing ,possibly saving for a mortgage ,the increase in rents will mean less saving towards a mortgage defeating the purpose of the policy.

I bet Osborne tries to include this in his 12 billion benefits cuts

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35786765)

That is the most nonsensical statement ever

who do mean by saying "people who need them" do I not need a house ? do you need a house more than someone else ?
and the only thing that takes people off the streets is building more houses not forcing people to take out mortgages or private lets they cannot afford

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35786769)

Why shouldn't he include this in those proposed cuts? I hope he does. I don't see why those at the bottom should be the only target.

It seems like people like yourself think you don't deserve to be part of the austerity cuts because you think you've earned the right not to be touched. But at the same time don't mind those that are struggling to be hit as long as it's not you.

It's like when child benefits cuts came in and the amount of concern voiced from those on £70,000 that kicked up a fuss.

As you say, without people like you.....

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35786766)

Thats funny because here in Warrington my daughter has moved in to a council house after being on the list for 6 years and pays £180 a month less than when she was in a private rent. That extra saving is paying towards a deposit now.

Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35786736)

This, it annoys the hell out of me , the council estate at the back of us have recently all had new roofs with solar panels installed (my roof needs doing and I wouldn't be against having solar panels but can't afford it at present). The amount of the property's with really nice and new BMWs and Mercedes, 2 cars on the drive , obviously earning some serious money. I always thought council houses were there to help people struggling to afford their own property , surely as soon as they have a decent job and earn enough they should go private rental or get themselves on the property ladder ?

Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35786774)

I'm a bit confused, tenants are not allowed to do things like get solar panels on their roof, so this would either be people that OWN their house, or maybe the Council/HA has had it done, in which case the tenant won't get the benefit.

Either way, what's the problem?

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35786772)

Which would be the profit component which until recently councils where not allowed to make .£45 per week is probably about the extra she will be charged on her rent when the government allow the council to make a profit on her rent so that means saving for deposits will become even harder as if they aren't hard enough

Originally Posted by Bulky (Post 35786776)

What is to be confused about , the council paid to have nice new roofs put on people's property's who have £60000 worth of cars on the drive :erm:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35786767)

Why can't it be right ? without people like me paying full rent from wages you would not have any decent council housing at all ,instead you would have slum dwellings inhabited only by the unemployed ,you forget that the only way that LA's can afford to provide suitable housing for disabled people(for example) is by the money they make from people who don't rely on housing benefit to pay the rent

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Good god man are you not reading what you are writing ,that is the most prejudiced statement yet ,you seem to think that the area I live in is somehow a bad area because it is a council estate what on earth gives you the right to suggest I need to better myself because I live on a very nice council estate