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martyh 05-12-2013 19:30

Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
 
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Originally Posted by Nidge41 (Post 35652589)
Nope his words were, "it costs more to process than what they get back."

DVLA earns about £6 billion for the treasury from road tax alone ,DVLA is one of the few government depts that actually earns money far exceeding the cost of running it

banjo 05-12-2013 19:37

Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35652595)
And how often has that actually happened?

I can't tell you how many times it has happened, but on at least one occasion I have had a car "lifted" and taken a non taxed and insured car off the road, if you are happy to have these vehicles on the Road I am very suprised !

BenMcr 05-12-2013 19:43

Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
 
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Originally Posted by banjo (Post 35652599)
I can't tell you how many times it has happened, but on at least one occasion I have had a car "lifted" and taken a non taxed and insured car off the road, if you are happy to have these vehicles on the Road I am very suprised !

Didn't say I was, but as the Police are happy for this to be changed, I would expect there are plans in place to deal with the changes.

banjo 05-12-2013 19:47

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35652591)
why would you want to check a vehicles VED status ?,if it isn't taxed they automatically get issued a ticket and eventually towed and possibly crushed as with insurance .

That is how it should happen but it doesn't work that way, if a car is not registered to the correct person it opens a whole can of worms and when is "eventually ?"

Hugh 05-12-2013 19:51

Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
 
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Originally Posted by Nidge41 (Post 35652589)
Nope his words were, "it costs more to process than what they get back."

Well, since it costs around half a billion to run all the DVLA, and they get 6 billion in from VED alone, he was sub-optimal in his interpretation of the information.

Taf 05-12-2013 19:51

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A near neighbour drove into a ANPR trap last evening. No tax, no insurance, no MOT, no licence. Docs to presented to a police station. HOORAH for computers attached to ANPR!

martyh 05-12-2013 19:55

Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
 
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Originally Posted by banjo (Post 35652603)
That is how it should happen but it doesn't work that way, if a car is not registered to the correct person it opens a whole can of worms and when is "eventually ?"

That's why it is in the interests of the person getting rid of a car to properly swap ownership ,the whole system is reliant on DVLA knowing who has possession of a vehicle and a car not displaying a tax disc is neither here nor there.The police will know if it has tax on it or not

banjo 05-12-2013 20:10

Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35652607)
That's why it is in the interests of the person getting rid of a car to properly swap ownership ,the whole system is reliant on DVLA knowing who has possession of a vehicle and a car not displaying a tax disc is neither here nor there.The police will know if it has tax on it or not

this is getting twisted, it is better to have a visual tax disc that can be checked by a member of the public a PCSO, Police officer on foot or a traffic warden,do you want to be hit by a non taxed and uninsured vehicle, I can't see your argument !

BenMcr 05-12-2013 20:11

Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
 
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Originally Posted by banjo (Post 35652610)
a PCSO, Police officer on foot or a traffic warden

will all be able to check via the registration number

martyh 05-12-2013 20:16

Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
 
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Originally Posted by banjo (Post 35652610)
this is getting twisted, it is better to have a visual tax disc that can be checked by a member of the public a PCSO, Police officer on foot or a traffic warden,do you want to be hit by a non taxed and uninsured vehicle, I can't see your argument !

A car can still be taxed and be uninsured ,and it's the uninsured cars that cause the problems not the untaxed ones

banjo 05-12-2013 20:17

Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35652611)
will all be able to check via the registration number

I don't understand what that means ? so everyone who wants to check this information has to have an ANPR device or go through a prolonged investigation ?

BenMcr 05-12-2013 20:19

Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
 
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Originally Posted by banjo (Post 35652613)
I don't understand what that means ? so everyone who wants to check this information has to have an ANPR device or go through a prolonged investigation ?

You don't need ANPR

As the link I posted earlier shows, you can check instantly via the DVLA whether a car is paid up for VED.

martyh 05-12-2013 20:21

Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
 
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Originally Posted by banjo (Post 35652613)
I don't understand what that means ? so everyone who wants to check this information has to have an ANPR device or go through a prolonged investigation ?

All they have to do is check the reg number with DVLA it takes about 30 secs and a police car fitted with ANPR bleeps and goes crazy as soon as an untaxed or uninsured car gets within 20yrds so i don't think it's going to be a problem .I think you are looking for problems that don't exist

banjo 05-12-2013 20:27

Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35652614)
You don't need ANPR

As the link I posted earlier shows, you can check instantly via the DVLA whether a car is paid up for VED.

No you can't , if I am in a car park or out and about I can't note down every vehicle registration, it is not as easy as having a visual confirmation of the taxation status.

martyh 05-12-2013 20:31

Re: The Car tax disc is to be scrapped after 93 years
 
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Originally Posted by banjo (Post 35652621)
No you can't , if I am in a car park or out and about I can't note down every vehicle registration, it is not as easy as having a visual confirmation of the taxation status.

I still don't understand why you want to go around checking car tax in car parks


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