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jonbxx 07-08-2013 07:23

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35606663)
And their cunning opening gambit is to take our side. Sneaky..

A genius reverse double bluff by unelected bureaucrats with their gold plated pensions and gold plated wives.

I would have thought there would be cheering at restricting immigration in to the Eurozone

Chris 08-08-2013 19:53

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
Royal Navy sends a gunboat:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23624715

Damien 08-08-2013 19:59

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35607561)
Royal Navy sends a gunboat:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23624715

Seems a bit much. Neither side are unlikely to attack. :confused:

Chris 08-08-2013 20:08

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
HMS Westminster was scheduled to be going that way in any case, so from that perspective they're not escalating things, just doing business as usual. On the other hand, they're not going out of their way to observe Spanish sensitivities. Mind you, why should they ...

danielf 08-08-2013 20:08

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
Yeah, but it shows Dave is well 'ard...

Osem 08-08-2013 20:25

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
... and if he does nothing he's well soft. Damned whatever by some folk I suspect. ;)

danielf 08-08-2013 20:27

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
I couldn't possibly comment ;)

nomadking 08-08-2013 20:29

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35606663)
And their cunning opening gambit is to take our side. Sneaky..

Not quite sure how this is 'taking our side'?
Quote:

It has told the government in Madrid that Spain must "address and discuss" with the European Union its angry dispute over fishing rights and sovereignty of the rocky outcrop, ceded to Britain under the 300-year-old Treaty of Utrecht.

Damien 08-08-2013 20:38

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35607572)
Not quite sure how this is 'taking our side'?

Because the bit you cut out told them to cut it out and told them to talk about what's going on. Here you go:

Quote:

Spain must allow "smooth and efficient border crossings" with Gibraltar, the European Commission has warned, as it stepped into the row between Madrid and Britain.

It has told the government in Madrid that Spain must "address and discuss" with the European Union its angry dispute over fishing rights and sovereignty of the rocky outcrop, ceded to Britain under the 300-year-old Treaty of Utrecht.

It has also pledged to send officials to the border between Spain and Gibraltar, to investigate the "serious complaints" it says it has received.
You cut a single part and ignored the rest.

Osem 08-08-2013 21:11

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
... and what terrible sanction will the EU impose upon Spain if they decide to carry on breaking the law I wonder? :rolleyes:

It'll be interesting to see how this thing pans out, especially if (God forbid) someone dies as a result of this illegal action by the Spanish.

nomadking 08-08-2013 23:45

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35607579)
Because the bit you cut out told them to cut it out and told them to talk about what's going on. Here you go:



You cut a single part and ignored the rest.

I didn't ignore it. The discussing of "fishing rights and sovereignty" is siding with Spain, as there is nothing to discuss.

Sirius 09-08-2013 09:11

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35607598)
... and what terrible sanction will the EU impose upon Spain if they decide to carry on breaking the law I wonder? :rolleyes:

It'll be interesting to see how this thing pans out, especially if (God forbid) someone dies as a result of this illegal action by the Spanish.

Thats my concern, i feel the EU will do nothing other than say something needs to be done but will not make them do it.

I will say i am wrong on this situation if the EU MAKE Spain drop this stupid argument and punish them for what they have done so far. however what i feel will happen is that if they try to bring in the charges there own people will kick off and make them change. The EU will not be the reason why this gets resolved and will not hit Spain as hard as the EU tend to and have hit us in the past. :rolleyes:

Osem 09-08-2013 09:29

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
Someone remind me did the French ever pay the EU fines for burning our beef and lamb?

Sirius 09-08-2013 09:41

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35607685)
Someone remind me did the French ever pay the EU fines for burning our beef and lamb?

Not that i am aware of.

Osem 09-08-2013 11:47

Re: Spain and Gibraltar
 
Nor me, however if they didn't pay the fines what did the EU do about that I wonder? Sweet FA anyone? :D


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