Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

Everyone looking for jobs with Kelly's or Quinns, why not look apply for jobs with Openreach themselves? It's way better!

More interesting, less stress and better paid.

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

I get you mate, but (if you're not already employed by them...) have you tried to apply for Openreach direct recently? If you haven't just left the armed forces or have no contacts, then I'd say joining MI5 is probably easier. If you can find a single link for a direct/in-house role on the net feel free to let others know. I'm waiting on my Openreach interview date but I had to make contacts at Kellys first in order to obtain the email address to send my CV to.

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

A couple of months ago there were hundreds of jobs on bt4me.co.uk

There's still some apprenticeships listed on the site right now.

Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

I have been offered a training place with Kelly's/BT Openreach as a Trainee Telecommunications Engineer, I'm not sure if I should take up the offer of training. I'm no longer young, (57) residential installations, broadband, would not be a problem, my concern is installing overhead lines, and climbing telephone poles, long hours, 9.5 per day, all the traveling ending up feeling fatigue . Is there any option of just residential installations/broadband work only.

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

Hi guys, I was asked to go on the induction course in Coventry next Monday but told them not enough notice so am going on the one starting Monday 16th. being done through capita resourcing, would be grateful for any information that anyone can give me regarding what to expect.

Thanks and regards in advance
John

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

Well essentially you'll have 3 days of HR/admin- lots of paperwork signing your name, before even seeing any telecoms stuff.
You then are trained for 9 days by PQMS who are excellent instructors but teaching a ridiculous amount of information in a poor learning environment. Too many students (at first anyway-a few will drop out) in a pokey classroom and shitloads of noise from people on the same course but a week ahead of you who have quickly forgotten how feckin annoying it is when you're concentrating for ten blokes to start singing outside your classroom.

The instructors also will work you until 8-9 pm a few nights so you (they) can have a sunday off. Honestly though, if they started at 0800 like they said there wouldn't be any need but they never start until 0930 ish and their 30 min coffee breaks last an hour.
Having said that, their knowledge is outstanding as is their instructional skill but you can only take so much in.
I stated earlier that we were told we couldn't shadow, this turned out not to be true and I shadowed a very knowledgeable guy.
I'm enjoying it so far, the guy I'm shadowing has good and bad days, he earned over a £100 on one day, but the next day was a washout and he only got £20, and he's pretty slick and knowledgeable.
Don't expect to earn £100 a day for a while though. :td:

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

Thanks for the reply and helpful info :-), so on the whole it's definitely worth doing you'd say. So I know in advance, what do I need to take along with me? Do they supply clothing for the training, or is there anything in particular I need to wear? Sorry if sounds a stupid question, just want to be as best prepared as I can.

Thanks for all the info once again
John

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

It's too early to tell for me bud, there's a lot of bad opinions on here about them so who knows.
They send you the information you need, clothing to take etc- guys wore jeans but others had outdoor clothing like walking trousers or works trousers.
You'll get boots from before you go up poles but the rest if the uniform might not come for a while and you won't use it on the course really.
Take notepad and pens, 99% of it is indoors and the shop they run is pretty expensive so stock up on lunch type food if you want and save receipts. Yea and coffee there is free. Breakfast is in the price ofthe hotel but evening meal is your responsibility- the hotel bar has a Kelly's discounted menu.
That's about it really, don't drink the night before your assessment, it doesnt go down well. And it's fiddly as f*** with shaky hands. :dozey:

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

Do not work for Kelly's end of worst company in the world managers are back stabbers I moved over to Quinns and we have to pay out own diesel and digs when working away but when out of area (which is 2 weeks out of 12) you get in to the frame of mind that u r working away so u blast it and make over 1000 a week ! Morale of the story kelly communications think they own you and are a joke of a company

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

wait till youve been at quimms a bit longer, it applies to those muppets as well. the main problem is they( senior managers/control) think they employ you and as such can tell you to do anything that need s doing to cover their sorry asses when they cock up( which is more often than not) they forget we are self employed contractors and are paid per job.:monkey: .

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

Ive been at kellys for just short of a year now and to be honest I dont know what all the bad reports are about,
I think alot of people on here who are whinging and moaning about the job need to give their head a rattle. Your job title is OVERHEAD LINESMAN therefore expect to have to climb telegraph poles and install overhead lines??
Not every job will be easy and it wont be sunny every day, expect to work hard and in return be rewarded with what I personally think is a good wage for todays climate,
i average between £600 to £800 a week every week and in order to earn this I have to get up at 6:30am mon to fri, drive to my first job in my fully equipped 12 plate transit with diesel provided and graft until im finished.
Yeh I sometimes might finish at 7pm but then again I could finish at 2, it just depends on the luck of the draw really. At the end of the day im paid to put phonelines into customers houses, so to complain about having to do it just doesn't make sense to me?

Ive worked at far worse places like AVC where u really do get treated like dirt and taken for every penny they can get out of you.
At kellys it seems to be if you use your initiative and get on with the job then you get left alone and can earn decent money, which at the end of the day is the reason we go to work.

I spent a few hours with my TM recently whilst getting my van serviced and his phone literally rang every 2 minutes. One lad phoned to say he had lost his drill bit in a garden and another to say he was running low on fuel and didnt know where the nearest garage was!!
Come on seriously, what the f*ck do you want your TM to do about it!?
Its probably the guys like that who will struggle and the reason why the TM dont have any time for them.
Honestly for the people who say they would be better off stacking shelves or working at McDs then go for it. If thats your mind set then you have no chance of working on your own on the BT network.

For anyone with a bit of common sense and initiative then you can do alot worse than kellys.

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

Just hijacking this thread to say we had a Kelly guy out today to install a new line over poles and also internal work into one of our buildings.

There was no way it was one man job due to the route the cable had to go so I gave him a hand where I could.

He did a fantastic job and didn't complain once so :tu: to him.

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

shoot2thrill
you are obviously a 'Kellys monkey' I mean manager.
What a crappy little script you spout. Still preying on the desperate, naïve and gullible.
Go back to digging roads or shoving virgin cables 2cm under some poor sods lawn ;)

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

So what your essentialy saying is unless I slag off kellys then im a manager?
I therefore cant provide an opinion??
Trust me im not a manager at kellys just an installer who like you put it was "desperate and naiive" iv got kids and a motgage to pay so £800 a week for a bit of hard work seems an ok deal to me.
It seems to be the trend on these forums that the minute anyone has anything good or honest to say about something there branded a manager by some keyboard warrior nobody who couldnt hack it and vents there frustration by getting insultive over the internet.

The thread is about whats it like to work for kellys, not whether im a manager or a monkey or whatever other **** you want to spout from the safety of your keyboard.

It asked a question and I gave my honest opinion, end of.

People like you are the reason kellys get a bad name in the first place.
Plucked from stacking shelves in tesco you quickly realise you cant handle a proper days graft,
you want set hours and easy jobs, you want a new van but dont want to travel too far and in return you want good money, the only problem is any job you come across thats too hard and you start to complain and cancel it down, blaming kellys for actually expecting you yo do a bit of work, it starts to rain and straight home you go with some lame excuse, leaving your fellow team mates to clean up your sh*t.
You sit at team meetings and dont say a word then start shouting your mouth off the minute the TM has gone, I expect your the worlds greatest ever telecoms installer however the figures say different, they say you cause faults, do a poor job and cancel more than you should (you then moan about your poor wage)
however none of that is your fault......its kellys.

Ive only worked at kellys a year but have been in a similar trade for the last 10, we get plenty of people like you passing through and we spot you a mile off. You last about 3 months before you finally quit or get sacked leaving a trail of sh*t bodge jobs and unhappy customers behind you.

Then whilst claiming your job seekers you vent on the Internet about how crap your old employer was and that anyone who works for them is a clown.

Where I come from we have a name for people like you, DICK HEAD

You want it all but your not willing to work for it, and lets be honest its hardly rocket science is it?

Re: Kelly's BT Openreach Engineers
 

are Quinns setting on in Notts area does anyone know ??