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Sirius 08-08-2012 19:18
Re: Sky Sports pricing dispute: appeal ruling looms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gj4009 (Post 35461216)
Sky won the appeal, whats more the judgment extract notes about how virgin and others were the ones making things difficult.

Ofcom has attributed responsibility for the failure to reach agreement
largely to Sky’s failure to engage constructively with its counterparties. However
the evidence shows that Sky did, on the whole, engage constructively. On the other
hand its counterparties by no means always did so, and in our view regulatory
gaming on the part of some of Sky’s counterparties played a much more important
role in the commercial negotiations and their progress (or lack of it) than Ofcom has
recognised.

Ahhh glad im believing in better with my TV provider ;) :p:

http://www.catribunal.org.uk/237-654...Media-Inc.html
Quote:
The Tribunal has concluded that neither of Sky’s and FAPL’s two grounds of challenge to Ofcom’s jurisdiction to take action under section 316 in the present case succeeds.
does this not show that Sky lost :confused:

nstokes 08-08-2012 19:18
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MAybe they got ahead of them selfs MB?

Media Boy UK 08-08-2012 19:19
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So why did Eurosport report this then???

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/b...--finance.html

Now we know why Eurosport News did not work. :)

devilincarnate 08-08-2012 19:20
Re: Sky Sports pricing dispute: appeal ruling looms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35461219)
So why did Eurosport report this then???

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/b...--finance.html
Well said MB as what has been put online is the non-confidential parts of the trial that have been available throughout the case (as it states). We all need to wait for the full and redacted version of the judgement as I have said before.

andy_m 08-08-2012 19:22
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Somewhat surprised that the take up of Sky Sports is so low across the Virgin customer base. Somewhere between 10 and 12%. That can't just be because of price-the difference really isn't that great. I find it slightly surprising that ofcom think Sky's negotiations with several other companies have failed because of the other companies and not the common denominator-common sense tells you thats unlikely-but perhaps the reason why companies like Virgin haven't engaged fully, if that really is the case, is that there's no real incentive for them to do so because there really isn't the clamour for these channels that some would have you believe.

devilincarnate 08-08-2012 19:27
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Here is another take on it? If these do not know what they are on about god help us all?

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/bskyb-...20120808-01092

Sirius 08-08-2012 19:29
Re: Sky Sports pricing dispute: appeal ruling looms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gj4009 (Post 35461216)
Sky won the appeal, whats more the judgment extract notes about how virgin and others were the ones making things difficult.

Ofcom has attributed responsibility for the failure to reach agreement
largely to Sky’s failure to engage constructively with its counterparties. However
the evidence shows that Sky did, on the whole, engage constructively. On the other
hand its counterparties by no means always did so, and in our view regulatory
gaming on the part of some of Sky’s counterparties played a much more important
role in the commercial negotiations and their progress (or lack of it) than Ofcom has
recognised.

Ahhh glad im believing in better with my TV provider ;) :p:

http://www.catribunal.org.uk/237-654...Media-Inc.html
So what makes you think Sky won ?

Media Boy UK 08-08-2012 19:30
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Sky won on this link:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...ports-channels

Link found by muppetman11.

The latest is Sky 2 Virgin Media 2.:)

pk1 08-08-2012 19:30
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Conflicting outcomes

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...-channels.html


http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...08-713163.html

Sirius 08-08-2012 19:33
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This is so hilarious :)

denphone 08-08-2012 19:35
Re: Sky Sports pricing dispute: appeal ruling looms
 
At the moment l am utterly baffled by all these different links and the interpretations of who has lost or won in all this :confused::confused:.

muppetman11 08-08-2012 19:35
Re: Sky Sports pricing dispute: appeal ruling looms
 
It doesn't take much but I'm lost and haven't got a clue :D

denphone 08-08-2012 19:37
Re: Sky Sports pricing dispute: appeal ruling looms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35461233)
It doesn't take much but I'm lost and haven't got a clue :D
Then the master has failed and perhaps it is time for you to leave your throne.;):D

Sirius 08-08-2012 19:38
Re: Sky Sports pricing dispute: appeal ruling looms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35461233)
It doesn't take much but I'm lost and haven't got a clue :D
The lawyers will make a fortune decrypting all of this :LOL:

denphone 08-08-2012 19:40
Re: Sky Sports pricing dispute: appeal ruling looms
 
l have just found two quotes from DS and they are as follows.

Quote:
LONDON (Reuters) - British satellite broadcaster BSkyB lost a long-standing dispute over the price it can charge rivals for its sports content after Britain's Competition Appeal Tribunal (CAT) ruled against the company on Wednesday.
The dispute dates back to 2010 when media regulator Ofcom ordered BSkyB to reduce the amount charged to competitors, such as Virgin Media and BT for its two most important SkySports channels in a move designed to increase market competition.
Quote:
BSkyB lost on jurisdiction challenge, but Tribunal found Ofcom's core competition concern to be unfounded


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