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denphone 31-07-2012 21:08

Re: Is BT a threat to VIrginmedia
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35458296)
Why would it be nonsense Den?

BT have a bargaining chip to get Sky Atlantic, and that is their newly aquired sports rights.

I don't know wheather they have done the deal or not, but I can see how it could be possible. VM have no such bargaining chip these days; they sold them all.

Any proof that BT will get Sky Atlantic PB because from what l know there is not a hope in hells chance of them getting it anytime soon.:)

andy_m 31-07-2012 21:13

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Bt won't be getting Atlantic. They want to be Sky's biggest competitor, Sky have no interest in helping them in to that position. Indeed, at the moment youview from talk talk is a better product than youview from Bt simply because they have the Sky channels.

passingbat 31-07-2012 21:20

Re: Is BT a threat to VIrginmedia
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35458307)
Any proof that BT will get Sky Atlantic PB

Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35458296)
I don't know wheather they have done the deal or not, but I can see how it could be possible. .


Telly_ 31-07-2012 21:58

Re: Is BT a threat to VIrginmedia
 
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35458305)
Bt's bargaining chip is also the thing that makes them a competitor, hence Sky doing business with talk talk but not with Bt. I think Bt are going to have to force their way into the top two, they can't expect that a few football rights are going to be enough to trade against access to the full stable of Sky channels when their stated aim is to become Sky's biggest rival.


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denphone 31-07-2012 22:13

Re: Is BT a threat to VIrginmedia
 
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Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35458331)
[Mod Edit - Comment removed at OP's request].

For someone who is a confirmed staunch Sky supporter you seem to be somewhat cuddling up to BT lately and perhaps you can give us more of a lowdown on what you think might be happening in the next 6 months? Telly as you seem to be well in the know with regards to this.:)

Hugh 31-07-2012 22:31

Re: Is BT a threat to VIrginmedia
 
Well, Marketing usually are told in advance....;)

btw, less of the 'fanboy', please.

andy_m 31-07-2012 23:05

Re: Is BT a threat to VIrginmedia
 
Telly, is your suggestion that Atlantic will be on youview based on the likely addition of now TV app?

borrissey 01-08-2012 00:56

Of course it is laying new fibre optical cable, buying prem league rights and launching a sports channel big moves. Also adding more channels to there tv over the years and looking to add more and more. Then more cheddar to play with.

There looking pretty strong. Will have to see what happens in the next 12 months and into the future.

Will be interesting to see how BT sports goes.

LexDiamond 01-08-2012 08:56

Re: Is BT a threat to VIrginmedia
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35458307)
Any proof that BT will get Sky Atlantic PB because from what l know there is not a hope in hells chance of them getting it anytime soon.:)

It could still be available on BT Vision STBs without BT and Sky ever doing a wholesale deal for the channel!

denphone 01-08-2012 09:06

Re: Is BT a threat to VIrginmedia
 
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Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35458412)
It could still be available on BT Vision STBs without BT and Sky ever doing a wholesale deal for the channel!

Well we shall see but it is highly unlikely in my mind Lex.

muppetman11 01-08-2012 09:29

Re: Is BT a threat to VIrginmedia
 
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Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35458412)
It could still be available on BT Vision STBs without BT and Sky ever doing a wholesale deal for the channel!

It will available on Youview via Now TV won't it , BT's future STB will be Youview.

LexDiamond 01-08-2012 09:44

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35458415)
Well we shall see but it is highly unlikely in my mind Lex.

BT Vision customers or BT broadband customerd signing up for the Youview package will both be able to subscribe to Sky Now so they will actually have access.

Partnering with Youview was a shrewd business move by Sky as it now 1) reduces its wholesale reliance on VM and 2) reduces the threat of Youview to Skys own platform as now anyone entering Youview as a pay tv provider has to compete with Sky.

yorkshireborn 01-08-2012 10:18

Re: Is BT a threat to VIrginmedia
 
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Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35458298)
And does everyone think VM are standing still?

apart from the speed upgrade (had to do because of BT infinity) and the few 3rd rate HD channels added wot have VM done i for one have not seen anything new except price increases.

denphone 01-08-2012 10:43

Re: Is BT a threat to VIrginmedia
 
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Originally Posted by yorkshireborn (Post 35458428)
apart from the speed upgrade (had to do because of BT infinity) and the few 3rd rate HD channels added wot have VM done i for one have not seen anything new except price increases.

Just be patient and l am sure things will come and the second point is has not Sky and BT put their prices up as well.

Itshim 01-08-2012 11:38

Re: Is BT a threat to VIrginmedia
 
Why are every one SO concerned that BT will move ahead of Virgin ? If the offer a better package in the future MOVE. News flash. You are not obliged to use them.

How many of you have the same power suppliers as you did say five years ago.
Do you only ever buy the same goods,no matter what the deal offered?
Me I have no brand loyalty, I Follow the money/service. This year we have flown with BA, Virgin & TUI this depended on what the package is. Have problem with this "blind" devotion to the Virgin brand. ( staff members accepted)


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