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Eeeps 26-06-2012 16:08

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35446076)
More than just that, web-based (especially the flash based Speedtest.net) ping tests are highly inaccurate. Best way to get an indication of ping is using the ping command.

...and on Windows even that is not accurate.

There's a nice command line utility called hrPing that uses the Windows high resolution timer to get microsecond accuracy. Also has the ability to send ICMP at faster intervals.

qasdfdsaq 26-06-2012 17:55

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Leased+line

They generally cost hundreds of pounds per month for a few megabits, reaching into several thousand pounds per month for a decent "broadband" speed.

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Originally Posted by Eeeps (Post 35446582)
There's a nice command line utility called hrPing that uses the Windows high resolution timer to get microsecond accuracy. Also has the ability to send ICMP at faster intervals.

We know, it's been around for a while

Not too practical for use on a mobile laptop though, or on multiple hosts, thanks to its 100% CPU usage.

Cammsy 26-06-2012 18:28

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35446645)
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Leased+line

They generally cost hundreds of pounds per month for a few megabits, reaching into several thousand pounds per month for a decent "broadband" speed.

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We know, it's been around for a while

Not too practical for use on a mobile laptop though, or on multiple hosts, thanks to its 100% CPU usage.

Ah yes I understand this now following my in-depth research since I replied. Would you know if fibre optic broadband from a less distributed company like "Eclipse", would give me better pings/latency than fibre optic from virgin media? I already know virgin media is really bad for this area but would a less known company bring much better pings/latency?

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Could anyone answer my question above please?

boroboi 26-06-2012 18:36

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
Eclipse AFAIK use BT's network for fibre, so you'd have to be near a FTTC enabled exchange and cabinet.

Cammsy 26-06-2012 18:45

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
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Originally Posted by boroboi (Post 35446674)
Eclipse AFAIK use BT's network for fibre, so you'd have to be near a FTTC enabled exchange and cabinet.

Am I if I already have virgin media fibre optic? Or is that not the same, I know that BT Infinity isn't available in my area so I guess not?

boroboi 26-06-2012 18:56

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
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Originally Posted by Cammsy (Post 35446684)
Am I if I already have virgin media fibre optic? Or is that not the same, I know that BT Infinity isn't available in my area so I guess not?

No, two different networks i'm afraid.

Virgin have their own fibre backbone and run all their own cabinets the same way as BT do, only BT's network is open to other ISP's like Eclipse, Talk Talk, Sky etc etc, Virgin's isn't, thank god, because it would be even worse than it is now.

ADSL with fastpath is going to be the best bet for you with latency.

Cammsy 26-06-2012 19:00

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
Does anyone think my pings/latency will improve/lower if I upgrade my current, 30MB Virgin Media Broadband to 100MB Virgin Media Broadband? Please, if anyone has done this before or has knowledge on the matter, please reply, my question still hasn't been answered :confused:, thanks.

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Originally Posted by boroboi (Post 35446693)
No, two different networks i'm afraid.

Virgin have their own fibre backbone and run all their own cabinets the same way as BT do, only BT's network is open to other ISP's like Eclipse, Talk Talk, Sky etc etc, Virgin's isn't, thank god, because it would be even worse than it is now.

ADSL with fastpath is going to be the best bet for you with latency.

Okay thanks mate much appreciated, i'll go research possible broadband packages now following your criteria :)

boroboi 26-06-2012 19:00

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
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Originally Posted by Cammsy (Post 35446696)
Does anyone think my pings/latency will improve/lower if I upgrade my current, 30MB Virgin Media Broadband to 100MB Virgin Media Broadband? Please, if anyone has done this before or has knowledge on the matter, please reply, my question still hasn't been answered :confused:, thanks.

It won't make a difference in all honesty. You will still be taking the same route through the network at exactly the same times, the only thing that will change is the amount of data you'll be able to pull through. I honestly don't think it will make a hell of a difference.

Cammsy 26-06-2012 19:10

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
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Originally Posted by boroboi (Post 35446701)
It won't make a difference in all honesty. You will still be taking the same route through the network at exactly the same times, the only thing that will change is the amount of data you'll be able to pull through. I honestly don't think it will make a hell of a difference.

Right okay :td: i'm stuck between this virgin media 20 ping network or the "Simply broadband" package from Orange as I don't want a cap on the amount of usage I use. Do you think orange with interleaving turned off, will be be able to achieve better ping's than 21-24 that I currently have?

qasdfdsaq 26-06-2012 19:13

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
All FTTC providers use the same fibre infrastructure - Openreach's - for the local loop. Most with the notable exception of two providers use BTw's backhaul network as well so are at BT's mercy for routing. The two that don't could potentially provide better or worse pings but everyone else will be the near enough the same.

I would find someone near you who is on BT and do a traceroute from their machines to a gaming server. That would give you the baseline of what to expect on BTw. BT aren't bad last I checked but certain LLU providers would be better.

No way of knowing without trying them out in your local area or speaking to someone who has.

boroboi 26-06-2012 19:16

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
I've read that BE are pretty good for gamers, latency wise being one of the best.

Cammsy 26-06-2012 19:19

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35446714)
All FTTC providers use the same fibre infrastructure - Openreach's - for the local loop. Most with the notable exception of two providers use BTw's backhaul network as well so are at BT's mercy for routing. The two that don't could potentially provide better or worse pings but everyone else will be the near enough the same.

I would find someone near you who is on BT and do a traceroute from their machines to a gaming server. That would give you the baseline of what to expect on BTw. BT aren't bad last I checked but certain LLU providers would be better.

No way of knowing without trying them out in your local area or speaking to someone who has.

In simple words, I either put up with the ping that I have, or take a gamble with orange ADSL with interleaving turned off?

qasdfdsaq 26-06-2012 19:20

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
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Originally Posted by boroboi (Post 35446716)
I've read that BE are pretty good for gamers, latency wise being one of the best.

Except:

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Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35445949)
Be* fastpath used to give low results like this but they seem to have gone down the majorty route of overselling nowadays



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Originally Posted by Cammsy (Post 35446720)
In simple words, I either put up with the ping that I have, or take a gamble with orange ADSL with interleaving turned off?

No.

In simple words speak to someone who has BT and test their line.

Cammsy 26-06-2012 19:50

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
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Originally Posted by boroboi (Post 35446716)
I've read that BE are pretty good for gamers, latency wise being one of the best.

https://www.bethere.co.uk/web/beport..._p_col_count=5

Do you mean this ISP being "BE" are these offers ADSL? ^^

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35446721)
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No.

In simple words speak to someone who has BT and test their line.

Sadly, I don't know anyone with BT xD

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35446721)
Except:



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No.

In simple words speak to someone who has BT and test their line.

I'm now able to test my friends connection within my area, it's Sky Broadband which came with his TV package, he has either a sky or BT phoneline. Is this the same as testing a BT connection? Please reply.

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Anyone else know the answer to my question above, pleeeeaaaaase? ^^

boroboi 26-06-2012 20:31

Re: Analyse my Ping Traceroute
 
Yeah they should be relatively similar. Sky use their own equipment in the exchange, and BT's copper network to do the rest.


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