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denphone 01-06-2012 11:12

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35435541)
If Tivo is the only PVR STB available on VM then would its numbers not increase by default
:confused:

Well l think these figures will tell you how much of a impression that the TiVo has made on customers of all persuasions.

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The 1st quarter results of 2012 are in for Virgin Media, and the TiVoizlation of the Digital Cable Network continues, with 677,000 subscriptions to TiVo, up by 242,000 from the previous quarter. 18% of Virgin's TV customer base now has TiVo, and that number will only increase thanks to the new Collections packs which all feature TiVo.

Not surprisingly, Virgin Media CEO Neil Berkett was pleased with the results, and the impact TiVo has had on them:

Virgin Media TiVo is driving more consumption of PayTV programming. TiVo customers are 23% more likely to watch a PayTV suggestion than a free TV suggestion. Suggesting that TiVo is unlocking content discovery.

The other great thing about Virgin Media TiVo is it’s dedicated, over-the-top connection, allowing our customers access to content and applications outside of our TV world garden. Unlike in a DSL garden, the bandwidth this connection uses will not impede the bandwidth other devices are using at the same time.

Virgin Media TiVo is a superior differentiated product and our customers are loving the features. The key customer satisfaction ratings, which we measure through promoter score, or MPS, are 24% higher than the non-TiVo customers. That’s our critical mass. This is why we’re offering TiVo as standard in our new collections. It’s the future of TV being delivered now and we will continue to improve and enhance service.

....TiVo continues to sell very strongly. We had 242,000 net adds in the quarter. This is despite a price increase from £3 to £5 at the end of February. Remember, we’ve only been advertising this service for three quarters now and we have already penetrated 18% of our entire TV base. Over 40% of TiVo gross adds in the quarter were new to Virgin Media TV.

carlwaring 01-06-2012 11:27

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35435541)
If Tivo is the only PVR STB available on VM then would its numbers not increase by default :confused:

You have a point, I suppose, but the point is how fast the user-base has increased. 18% of VM's TV subscribers now have Tivo; in around one year (give or take!)

As well, of course, as the other facts and quote mentioned by den, above.

I'd say that was pretty impressive :)

LexDiamond 01-06-2012 11:49

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35435548)
You have a point, I suppose, but the point is how fast the user-base has increased. 18% of VM's TV subscribers now have Tivo; in around one year (give or take!)

As well, of course, as the other facts and quote mentioned by den, above.

I'd say that was pretty impressive :)

I'm not dusputing the fact that Tivo is an impressive or in demand product. But the sales would be expected to increase in light of the fact that it is now the standard PVR. Of those figures 40% are new to VM meaning that only 60% of those additions can be said to definately be a user that saw Tivo as the superior. The 40% new customers could be here just for the Tivo or they could be here for VM and have a Tivo by default.

Arthurgray50@blu 01-06-2012 12:53

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
I admit that l am wrong, l have now had the Tivo box in for a couple of days, and l am being turned round.

If l am wrong, then l say so, other members have put me right, and this is what l like.

I just hope when the football starts, l can get the red button.

My only argument is that there is supposed to be Text on the Tivo, but it doesn't work.

And if you want to record a series of a prog it records the series on a daily basis such as three at a time ie Little House etc etc is on three times per day, it records the whole lot. We don't want the same Prog being recorded.

jempalmer 01-06-2012 13:18

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
Change the series link so that it only records new episodes Arthur. That way you won't get duplicates, triplicates etc.

Hugh 01-06-2012 13:59

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
You could always RTFM, Arthur.

Bentex 01-06-2012 14:14

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35435568)
I admit that l am wrong, l have now had the Tivo box in for a couple of days, and l am being turned round.

If l am wrong, then l say so, other members have put me right, and this is what l like.

I just hope when the football starts, l can get the red button.

My only argument is that there is supposed to be Text on the Tivo, but it doesn't work.

And if you want to record a series of a prog it records the series on a daily basis such as three at a time ie Little House etc etc is on three times per day, it records the whole lot. We don't want the same Prog being recorded.

As it has already been said, you can change the settings for this. You can pretty much make Tivo to record anything how you want. While Sky+ only has one series link option.

When I first got Tivo it was a bit overwhelming and it took me time to figure things out. People told me to stick with it. Now I would never change it. Took me about 6 weeks to really get to know it well. Yet I was still finding out new features after 8-10 weeks!

Can you please sir tell me what the deal is with the "red button" on the football. I'm a football lover too but I don't get what's so special about it. From what I can remember on the bbc you can change commentary to 5 live or no commentary and that's about it. With tennis you can watch other matches...so I can see why that's important (to tennis fans, not me). But for a football fan? Is it really a must-have feature?

carlwaring 01-06-2012 14:18

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35435568)
My only argument is that there is supposed to be Text on the Tivo, but it doesn't work.

There was supposed to be 'text ' on the V+ too but there wasn't :)

denphone 01-06-2012 14:27

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35435568)
I admit that l am wrong, l have now had the Tivo box in for a couple of days, and l am being turned round.

If l am wrong, then l say so, other members have put me right, and this is what l like.

I just hope when the football starts, l can get the red button.

My only argument is that there is supposed to be Text on the Tivo, but it doesn't work.

And if you want to record a series of a prog it records the series on a daily basis such as three at a time ie Little House etc etc is on three times per day, it records the whole lot. We don't want the same Prog being recorded.

Here Arthur this should help you regarding text articles.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/help-17655000

LexDiamond 01-06-2012 14:54

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
Bentex, the red button on Sky Sports give you the option of watching additional streams, e.g. on a CL night you can watch games other than the one that is advertised.

spiderplant 01-06-2012 14:55

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35435568)
My only argument is that there is supposed to be Text on the Tivo, but it doesn't work.

What kind of text are you expecting, Arthur? There are red button services on several channels.

Bentex 01-06-2012 21:21

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35435630)
Bentex, the red button on Sky Sports give you the option of watching additional streams, e.g. on a CL night you can watch games other than the one that is advertised.


Ah, yes. Of course.

I knew this already. Also football first.

But I knew these were Sky exclusives. I don't think they'll ever get on VM. It's one of the things I weighed up switching to VM and tivo.

I think certainly if CL games selection and/or football first is important to you then stick to Sky (unless someone knows something I don't).

LexDiamond 01-06-2012 21:50

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bentex (Post 35435815)
Ah, yes. Of course.

I knew this already. Also football first.

But I knew these were Sky exclusives. I don't think they'll ever get on VM. It's one of the things I weighed up switching to VM and tivo.

I think certainly if CL games selection and/or football first is important to you then stick to Sky (unless someone knows something I don't).

Not Sky exclusive mate. VM already have this on the V+. VM will have this on Tivo soon too.

Bentex 02-06-2012 13:42

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
When did they get it? I don't remember having it when I had my v+ box v (2009/2010).

LexDiamond 02-06-2012 14:00

Re: TiVo vs Sky+ Benefits
 
VM had it for all of last season in the EPL. I think it arrived on V+ around Easter last year.


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