Re: Muslims against crusades banned
 

And I've said that they can ;)

People can call themselves whatever they want.

Going back to the topic, there are many who would say the MAC idiots are not true Muslims but if you ask the MAC, they would probably tell you they are more 'Muslim' than anyone.

Re: Muslims against crusades banned
 

it makes perfect sense to me in fact i have argued that point in previous threads

Re: Muslims against crusades banned
 

i was just wondering about the western crusades that where carried out in the name of Christianity by Christians against muslims .

Re: Muslims against crusades banned
 

yes and i'm going to call myself a good looking sex god ,doesn't mean i am .Zees point is that most muslims who follow Islam in a peacefull way will not see the MAC as muslims because their actions are against the widely accepted teachings of the koran regardless of what they call themselves

Re: Muslims against crusades banned
 

When did the Atheists association come up with that rule and not inform me?
I'm in that club but I'm not open minded.

Re: Muslims against crusades banned
 

now come on you have to listen to others misguided drivel before ignoring it its only polite .:D

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different time ,different beliefs .Probably an era more suited to the MACs .In todays world no i don't think the crusaders would be accepted as christian at all

Re: Muslims against crusades banned
 

Um...thanks for backing up what I just said :confused:

I neither said or implied all atheists think that way.

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what about todays Christian British soldiers shooting muslims in Iraq or Afghanistan
are they accepted as Christians ?.

Re: Muslims against crusades banned
 

Good. and I'm not offended by it. but it would help to make sure you put in the word some next time.
you know what Hugh's like :D

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Or cowboys killing indians :)

infact anyone that kills. can they be accepted as Christians?

Re: Muslims against crusades banned
 

Anyone surprised?

Anyone?


Anyone?


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Thought not.....;)

And in other surprise breaking news, the Pope confirms rumours that he is, in fact, Catholic.....:D

Re: Muslims against crusades banned
 

The question than is what makes a 'true Muslim'.

Re: Muslims against crusades banned
 

Absolutely subjective.

Re: Muslims against crusades banned
 

what about them ? they aren't doing it in the name of god .Killing anyone for whatever reason,however justified it may apear isn't very Christian.which is the great hypocrasy of any religion in my opinion

Re: Muslims against crusades banned
 

You've helped emphasise a point I often make - it's not your or my place to decide who is or isn't a "good" Christian/Muslim/Sikh/Hindu/whatever. We can comment on whether we feel someone's actions have fallen short of what we personally might expect from someone of faith but a person's beliefs are their own and justifiable to themselves only - and their chosen deity.

For example I don't view the whole MAC ethos to be very Islamic. I don't know any of them personally so I can't be sure but in my opinion I would say their actions fall short of what their holy book guides them to do. And they'd be just as within their rights to disagree with me.

Swings and roundabouts.