Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35326611)

I wasn't referring to moral codes. Patience, our day shall come ;)

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35326620)

If any law/rule can be overridden on grounds of belief, then there is no valid reason for it to apply to everybody else. It would be too easy for people to declare a belief in something illegal or do the legal exceptions only apply to certain groups.

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35326617)

My wife's home town in France used to have about 11 local butchers, with only one of them halal. Now they are ALL halal butchers despite the local population not having anyway near a muslim majority. The original butchers went out of business as meat prices rocketted, but it seems halal butchers have an easy form of credit to move in and buy up the busineses. And all the local restaurants and fast food outlets now serve ONLY halal meats (I wonder how they get halal ham and peperoni for their pizzas :confused: ). And now the 2 local supermarkets have halal sections, well distanced from the pork section of course. ASDA here does too, but only in muslim-heavy areas.

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35326739)

The credit crunch has stopped, or vastly reduced, lines of credit for existing businesses or for those wishing to buy/start businesses by loans from "western" banks. But sharia law "loans" from Middle Eastern banks are apparently still very available for muslims.

And generally AFAIC halal meat is sold below what "western" butchers would consider a decent profitable price.

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35326754)

Sharia bankloans don't usually come from "banks" in the country you are in, but by more direct routes from countries like Saudi Arabia. I know this because this is how 2 French muslim mates got money to buy their homes and a garage business between them.

Maybe muslim butchers don't want, or aren't allowed, to make large (probably huge) profits that "western" butchers" do?