Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
 

Exactly Sky HD and Tivo are very different boxes and for the want of a better term the Sky HD box is pretty dumb and is simply a PVR.

The Tivo is doing so much more and constantly pulling metadata when you explore a show. All these whiz bang features will come with a bit of overhead. So it takes 3 seconds to display my shows big deal.

The EPG is lightning fast way faster then the V+ ever was. I agree that there are a few places where they can improve so hopefully in future we will get more performance enhancements.

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Regardless of the metadata it is pulling, I still believe that with todays technology that TiVo should be much faster. I still think that poor firmware is holding it back.

Oh and bring out the bloody qwerty keypad, or an app to control TiVo fully already!

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These boxes have to be made at a price, if cost wasn't an issue then you could have all singing dance machine. But to keep it realistic they have to skimp on things.

They still have yet to get the second core to work and I am sure that the code could do with a lot of tidying up. The only time the box really annoys me is when it is recording three HD shows, navigating My shows can be very slow then.

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Unlike navigating a data and graphic rich website which is instant?

I don't buy that at all, as mentioned above, it is all down to costs.

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I *have* had mine at 99% recording capacity and saw no difference in the speed to when it's below 50

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I'm sorry but I can't. ;)

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This is what happens when you work from home. :angel:

Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
 

Yes l have to agree with you on much of what you say and it can only get better.

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You are not comparing like for like.

With the website, it is "one size fits all"; with the TiVo box, each individual users' information has to be updated with the appropriate metadata and data for the programmes they have on the box, each time they record something.

Now I am sure this could be improved, by caching info (if they don't do it already) and then only looking for changes in data, and uploading that, but it is not the simple task you make it out to be, imho.

btw, you say you "don't buy that at all"? Is that statement based on technical knowledge, or just an opinion?

Re: TiVo speed - not good enough?
 

Similar to how Google personalises your search results based on your Google preferences and search history then? Or how facebook displays information relevant to you when you are navigating the site?

Caching is not needed, better specs on the box and headend are required - but as I already stated, it boils down to money.

Technical knowledge (and common sense re keeping costs down).

You are very defensive, but I am speaking of ALL set top boxes (as I have already mentioned in previous posts) - it is not limited to TiVo.

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How large a file do you think the "metadata" is? Tivo has a 10Mb connection with its own dedicated modem.

The speeds which large files can be shifted around these days and your excuse that Tivo is slow because it needs to fetch data do not add up.

Its not fetching video files,its text with maybe a jpg.

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Thank you for the ad hominem attack - not sure which part of my post was 'defensive' or what I was 'defending'....

You seem to have higher expectations of technology and coders than I have, and comparing Google engineers with TiVo engineers is like comparing Man U with Bradford, imho - poles apart in scale and funding.

Whilst it would be nice to have sub-second responses, it doesn't ruin my day not to have them - ymmv.

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Caching is needed!!! That's the only way TiVo is every going to hit the instant milestone. (by instant i mean 150ms and less).

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It also has to search for the data and the metadata - you are talking about multiple searches across multiple files and their many indexes, imho (unless, of course, you know more about the TiVo database and index structure than I do, as I am just going on general data warehousing principles...).

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You seem to be making things up and twisting peoples words (hardly a good impression to give as a member of staff on this forum) - so it is a pointless debate. You have your opinion, I have mine.

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That would be where I said and you responded with btw, I am not a "member of staff" - I am a volunteer (who doesn't work for VM) who helps moderate this forum (once again, you resort to ad hominem attacks).