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TJS 28-06-2011 11:20

Re: Thinkbroadband speed test improved
 
Sorry to revive this but i noticed somthing

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download/

downloading the 1 GB file; the only way to possibly achieve even near to what ic an normally download from websites is using 'download them all' plugin on firefox which is set to download from 16 concurrent connections

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/06/5.png

If i try to download from thinkbroadband normally

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/06/6.png


Yet other downloads can get past 2 mb/s fine.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/06/7.png
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/06/8.png
It almost seems like TBB are limiting the speed per connection to virgin media?


http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedt...1020129209.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/06/9.png

---------- Post added at 12:20 ---------- Previous post was at 12:12 ----------

Also downloading a single file 1.5 mb/s

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/06/10.png

yet if I download 6 concurrent files they still all go arround 1 mb/s (all download speeds combined = 6100 kb/s)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/06/11.png

_wtf_ 28-06-2011 12:11

Re: Thinkbroadband speed test improved
 
My results on my 50Mb connection.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedt...7967929624.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/06/4.png

qasdfdsaq 28-06-2011 19:07

Re: Thinkbroadband speed test improved
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35265063)
Sorry to revive this but i noticed somthing

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download/

downloading the 1 GB file; the only way to possibly achieve even near to what ic an normally download from websites is using 'download them all' plugin on firefox which is set to download from 16 concurrent connections

[snip]

VM is just inherently bad at delivering your full pipe speed over one connection, no surprises there, but obviously some sites will be worse affected than others.

Skie 28-06-2011 19:31

Re: Thinkbroadband speed test improved
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35265276)
VM is just inherently bad at delivering your full pipe speed over one connection, no surprises there, but obviously some sites will be worse affected than others.

Honestly, as bad as VM are on some things, I find I can quite often get the full 50meg I'm paying for. Its usually the website that can't (or wont) deliver the full speed with one connection, which can usually be corrected with Down them all :p

TJS 28-06-2011 20:07

Re: Thinkbroadband speed test improved
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35265276)
VM is just inherently bad at delivering your full pipe speed over one connection, no surprises there, but obviously some sites will be worse affected than others.

Did you actually read my post? I showed other screen-grabs showing that i can get very close to full speed on other downloads just fine; only tbb was having problems.

---------- Post added at 21:07 ---------- Previous post was at 21:06 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 35265293)
Honestly, as bad as VM are on some things, I find I can quite often get the full 50meg I'm paying for. Its usually the website that can't (or wont) deliver the full speed with one connection, which can usually be corrected with Down them all :p

Exactly! :)

Nopanic 28-06-2011 20:16

Re: Thinkbroadband speed test improved
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35265276)
VM is just inherently bad at delivering your full pipe speed over one connection, no surprises there, but obviously some sites will be worse affected than others.

Rubbish .. look at the offcom reports ..

qasdfdsaq 29-06-2011 02:44

Re: Thinkbroadband speed test improved
 
The ofcom reports are *exactly* what show VM are the worst at delivering full speed over single connections (i.e. without multithreading)

So how about you take a look yourself.

---------- Post added at 03:44 ---------- Previous post was at 03:42 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35265309)
Did you actually read my post? I showed other screen-grabs showing that i can get very close to full speed on other downloads just fine; only tbb was having problems.

Did you actually read my post? I said VM are relatively bad at getting full speed from single connections, and some sites are affected worse than others. Very close to full speed isn't full speed. From a technical point of view anything other than 100% of full speed without due cause is a problem.

TJS 29-06-2011 09:56

Re: Thinkbroadband speed test improved
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35265373)
The ofcom reports are *exactly* what show VM are the worst at delivering full speed over single connections (i.e. without multithreading)

So how about you take a look yourself.

---------- Post added at 03:44 ---------- Previous post was at 03:42 ----------


Did you actually read my post? I said VM are relatively bad at getting full speed from single connections, and some sites are affected worse than others. Very close to full speed isn't full speed. From a technical point of view anything other than 100% of full speed without due cause is a problem.

No you didn't. yo said it is 'inherently' bad.

And the only reason the 2 other downloads i showed were slightly off full speed was down to the websites they were being downloaded off.

Considering i can manage 4 - 6 MB/s downloads of a majority of websites; but then think broadband apparently being a leading online company for determining performance of internet connections cant pass 1.5 MB/s shows the problem is at their end.

Here is a trace route to think broadband. I'm about 99.9% sure that shows the problem is their end. It just carries on with hops of * * *. completely outside of the virgin media network.

Here is a screenshot to; as you seem like somone who would try and discredit copied and pasted stuff.

Quote:

Traceroute has started…

traceroute to thinkbroadband.com (80.249.99.130), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 10.93.176.1 (10.93.176.1) 11.220 ms 7.976 ms 8.801 ms
2 bagu-core-1b-ae3-2368.network.virginmedia.net (80.5.167.249) 8.419 ms 8.587 ms 10.412 ms
3 leed-bb-1b-as4-0.network.virginmedia.net (80.5.161.157) 10.890 ms 11.381 ms 11.225 ms
4 leed-bb-1a-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net (62.253.187.185) 10.000 ms 9.941 ms 47.225 ms
5 brnt-bb-1b-as2-0.network.virginmedia.net (213.105.175.26) 17.663 ms 16.450 ms 15.709 ms
6 brnt-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net (213.105.159.50) 16.187 ms 14.989 ms 15.861 ms
7 telc-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net (62.253.185.74) 39.248 ms 16.405 ms 15.930 ms
8 linx-gw1.thdo.ncuk.net (195.66.226.240) 16.238 ms 17.257 ms 16.632 ms
9 gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net (80.249.97.9) 18.203 ms 21.893 ms 17.336 ms
10 * * *
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kwikbreaks 29-06-2011 10:18

Re: Thinkbroadband speed test improved
 
> I'm about 99.9% sure that shows the problem is their end.

On this occasion the 1% wins. The tracert proves nothing at all other than a router in the path cba to respond to low priority traffic which is how your tracert is classed.

That said I never get a decent speedtest result from TBB either so there is something wrong in the path or test.

===

Just tried this from my home connection and my own tracert looks fine....

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\System32>tracert thinkbroadband.com

Tracing route to thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 10 ms 15 ms 11 ms cpc9-nrte22-2-0-gw.8-4.cable.virginmedia.com [81.109.113.1]
3 8 ms 11 ms 19 ms nrth-core-1b-ae1-2555.network.virginmedia.net [213.106.255.209]
4 9 ms 7 ms 9 ms nrth-bb-1b-so-511-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.162.241]
5 11 ms 11 ms 15 ms brnt-bb-1a-as2-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.162.217]
6 11 ms 11 ms 15 ms brnt-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.174.226]
7 14 ms 9 ms 11 ms brnt-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.50]
8 11 ms 12 ms 15 ms telc-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.74]
9 14 ms 17 ms 15 ms linx-gw1.thdo.ncuk.net [195.66.226.240]
10 15 ms 17 ms 15 ms gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.9]
11 12 ms 18 ms 13 ms www.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130]

Trace complete.

C:\Windows\System32>

Looks like your last hop was TBB itself.

_wtf_ 29-06-2011 10:22

Re: Thinkbroadband speed test improved
 
Here's mine


Tracing route to thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms DD-WRT [192.168.1.1]
2 16 ms 7 ms 7 ms ****-****-*-*-**.****.cable.virginmedia.com [**.***.***.*]
3 9 ms 15 ms 15 ms ****-geam-1a-ge212.network.virginmedia.net [**.*.***.***]
4 9 ms 7 ms 16 ms ****-geam-1a-pc113.network.virginmedia.net [**.*.***.**]
5 11 ms 16 ms 7 ms ****-core-1a-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [**.*.***.*]
6 14 ms 15 ms 12 ms winn-bb-1a-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.175.157]
7 14 ms 21 ms 16 ms brnt-bb-1b-as5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.172.234]
8 14 ms 14 ms 15 ms brnt-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.50]
9 15 ms 21 ms 15 ms telc-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.74]
10 15 ms 17 ms 13 ms linx-gw1.thdo.ncuk.net [195.66.226.240]
11 13 ms 16 ms 17 ms gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.9]
12 22 ms 14 ms 15 ms www.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130]

Trace complete.

Your point?

asbo dog 29-06-2011 11:26

Re: Thinkbroadband speed test improved
 
Mine to the 1gb file ip, speedtest on TBB have been giving 3-4mb on this 30mb during peak, all other sources run full speed
Code:

Tracing route to download.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.148]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    21 ms    6 ms    7 ms  10.34.248.1
  2    8 ms    7 ms    7 ms  manc-core-1a-ae3-691.network.virginmedia.net [86
.28.65.93]
  3    22 ms  105 ms    7 ms  manc-bb-1a-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.10
5.175.1]
  4    90 ms    55 ms    20 ms  brnt-bb-1b-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43
.163.86]
  5    16 ms    13 ms    15 ms  brnt-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.10
5.159.50]
  6    15 ms    15 ms    51 ms  telc-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.
185.74]
  7    14 ms    17 ms    15 ms  linx-gw1.thdo.ncuk.net [195.66.226.240]
  8    18 ms    15 ms    16 ms  gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.9
7.9]
  9    14 ms    27 ms    37 ms  download.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.148]

Trace complete.



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