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Sirius 26-04-2011 06:08
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35222216)
It was the conservatives under Heath.

In fact the only time the British people got to have their voices heard (albeit with a 66% majority voting to to stay in the EC) was courtesy of a labour referendum under Wilson in '75.

The subsequent signing of Maastrict and the formation of the EU (both of which took place under Conservative Governments) were the final nails in the coffin - as the Factortame case went some way to proving.
Thanks.

I still wish we could get to hell out but i dont think we will ever get a chance

Mr Angry 26-04-2011 07:40
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35222278)
Thanks.

I still wish we could get to hell out but i dont think we will ever get a chance
I tend to agree. As I see it there's no real prospect of it ever happening I'm afraid.

Hugh 26-04-2011 08:14
Re: A new flood of migrants ?
 
I have to say I am coming round to this view - I was always a supporter of the EEC and its founding principles, but lately it just seems to be pointless bureaucratic growth, over-regulation and spending (and no, I do not get my views from the Express/Mail....)

Osem 26-04-2011 08:36
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35222316)
I have to say I am coming round to this view - I was always a supporter of the EEC and its founding principles, but lately it just seems to be pointless bureaucratic growth, over-regulation and spending (and no, I do not get my views from the Express/Mail....)
Me too - join the club..... :mad:

Ignitionnet 26-04-2011 08:48
Re: A new flood of migrants ?
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35222316)
I have to say I am coming round to this view - I was always a supporter of the EEC and its founding principles, but lately it just seems to be pointless bureaucratic growth, over-regulation and spending (and no, I do not get my views from the Express/Mail....)
Like so many things formed mostly with the best of intentions but soon becoming a self-serving bureaucratic monstrosity whose primary function now appears to be rewarding the appratchiks with jobs and pensions and sending funds to their chosen causes.

mrmistoffelees 26-04-2011 09:00
Re: A new flood of migrants ?
 
So let me get this right.....

There's potential for a wave of migration to happen which may or may not occur (Apologies to any mystics on the board)


This in turn then leads to some people stating 'I hate migrants' etc. etc.

Just a quick Q for the migrant hater(s) Don't you realise that migration is neccesary in this country ? As it is in fact in most countries

Oh and for one final point would anyone hazard a guess as to the numbers emigrating from the UK as opposed to those coming in ?

deadite66 26-04-2011 09:14
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35222343)
Just a quick Q for the migrant hater(s) Don't you realise that migration is neccesary in this country ? As it is in fact in most countries
Controlled Migration is the key here.

mrmistoffelees 26-04-2011 09:16
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Originally Posted by deadite66 (Post 35222349)
Controlled Migration is the key here.
Indeed it is. However as part of the EU..........

Gary L 26-04-2011 09:19
Re: A new flood of migrants ?
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35222343)
Don't you realise that migration is neccesary in this country ? As it is in fact in most countries
Neccessary?

mrmistoffelees 26-04-2011 09:20
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35222354)
Neccessary?
Correct, would you like me to spell out the reasons as to why ?

Gary L 26-04-2011 09:22
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35222355)
Correct, would you like me to spell out the reasons as to why ?
If you're not too busy.

mrmistoffelees 26-04-2011 09:31
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Ok then, labour for example cheap fruit and vegtables... who picks them ?

Skilled shortage areas such as Dr's., Surgeons.

Low paid, low skilled jobs that perhaps some UK citizens neither have the time nor inclanation to accept due to them being more interested in reproducing and paying for things out of catalogues on the never never......

There's a few to get you started

Sirius 26-04-2011 09:34
Re: A new flood of migrants ?
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35222360)
Ok then, labour for example cheap fruit and vegtables... who picks them ?

Skilled shortage areas such as Dr's., Surgeons.

Low paid, low skilled jobs that perhaps some UK citizens neither have the time nor inclanation to accept due to them being more interested in reproducing and paying for things out of catalogues on the never never......

There's a few to get you started
Migration maybe, Giving them benefits as soon as they arrive NO. I say they must have been offered a job BEFORE they come here and if they lose there job in the first year they MUST leave. Why should i have to fund there life style when they have done nothing for this country but suck our benefits system dry.

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As many as 100,000 people from eastern Europe are expected to head for the UK after May 1, when they will be able to claim up to £250 a week in handouts.
Sir Andrew Green, chairman of the monitoring body MigrationWatch UK, said last night: “This needs to be watched very carefully. Nobody knows what impact it will have.”
He is particularly concerned about what would happen once similar “transitional controls” on immigrants from Bulgaria and Romania are lifted in two years’ time, with fears that Roma people would race to take advantage.

mrmistoffelees 26-04-2011 09:39
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35222361)
Migration maybe, Giving them benefits as soon as they arrive NO. I say they must have been offered a job BEFORE they come here and if they lose there job in the first year they MUST leave. Why should i have to fund there life style when they have done nothing for this country but suck our benefits system dry.

Great stuff, can we do that with all the workshy bone idle gits who refuse to get jobs and instead play the system for all they can ?

cross border economic migration within the EU is bound within law.

Non EU migration into the UK works pretty much the same way as you have described above (without the buggering off when they lose a job)

We're all quite happy to go and work whereever we wish in the EU as well.....

As many as 100,000 (so no idea how many in reality) people from eastern Europe are expected to head (might head to the UK might not who knows) for the UK after May 1,

Does anyone have a breakdown of these supposed £250pw benefits that they're supposedly entitled to claim ?

Mr Angry 26-04-2011 09:40
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35222361)
Why should i have to fund there life style when they have done nothing for this country but suck our benefits system dry.
The very same argument could be made about many bankers - migrant or not.


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