Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35180541)

people said that about HD

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35180543)

When it is released to the public in April we will possibly get an unbiased review. It would be nice if it were done by Cnet, Trusted reviews or the like.

Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35180549)

Not me.. I wanted HD the day it was released. I've not watched DVD in 2 years, refuse to watch them not. Only watch Blu-ray or my old trusty HD-DVDs.

If anyone said HD wasn't that important it was VM with its sluggish implementation of it. There were tonnes of people who wanted more HD.

Now if you had said "people say that about 3D" then i'd agree with you.

Having said that i think the way HD is being implemented is a total con. There is no need for HD channels, just upgrade all channels to HD. If people have SD sets the box just downsamples to output SD resolutions..

Why don't they do that?Because they want to have "NEW" channels to make it look they are giving us something. Oh and want to be able to charge extra for it.

*Not specifically directed at VM as sky is most guilty.

Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35180559)

Actually i've just had a thought of something that TIVO could do that would impress me (but i doesn't AFAIK)..

If it modified the EPG to get rid of all SD channels that have HD versions and just swapped the HD version in it's spot.

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35180565)

You can do that with "Favourites" on TIVo as it has it's own EPG and Mini Guide :)

Bypasses all the SD channels if you want it to.

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35180567)

I don't know about other's but I had never heard of Tivo before VM announced it myself.

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35180324)

To the extent that you can even watch those shows from anywhere with the mobile, ipad and pc apps available for the platform

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35180567)

There may well be quite a decent number (let's say several 1000's) of Sky customer's who may well defect just for Tivo but they will be almost certainly be very tech savvy types, I doubt they would be average customers.
Let's call a spade a spade, the brand of Tivo probably means little or nothing to most people right now but if it ever does that might be the time a sizeable amount of Sky customers defect.

I don't know about other's but I had never heard of Tivo before VM announced it myself.

Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35180569)

I knew you were going to say favourites.. perhaps they are better than previous incarnations but i've never liked using favourites.

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I knew TIVO were popular in the US, but actually didn't realise you could ever get one here..

Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35180569)

I knew you were going to say favourites.. perhaps they are better than previous incarnations but i've never liked using favourites.

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I knew TIVO were popular in the US, but actually didn't realise you could ever get one here..

Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35180571)

You can't watch programmes on the iPad app. It's just for controlling your TiVo.

http://www.tivo.com/mytivo/product-f...pad/index.html

Originally Posted by pauldavies83 (Post 35180545)

100% spot on. TiVo's big unique features in software (wishlists, season pass, suggestions) have not changed in 10 years - only the hardware has.

Ordering pizza's and the like via the TV has been done and died (on cable and Sky) - very few use this kind of thing. Why? It's easier to pick up the phone or the internet connected computer.



Bigger hard drive could easily go into refurbished V+ boxes, but Virgin have decided against this for years. Why is anyone's guess.

So my 2 cents is, no, TiVo alone will not entice subscribers from Sky.

Broadband speeds, pricing and on-demand might. But that was also the case before TiVo appeared.

A sweeping generalisation I know, but your average man in the street wants to turn their TV on and watch it - not play about with fancy menus and apps.

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According to this, people still are saying that about HD...
http://www.itproportal.com/2010/12/0...tv-says-ofcom/

59% of households have a HD-ready set, but only 13% actually have access to a HD source.

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35180594)

Thanks for the info DF I shall sit tight at the moment, still some things I want to know a bit more about.

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35180574)

From my reading Tivo isn't even a widespread brand there, they have well less than 3m customers but I would assume it's much better known than here.

I think they only shifted around 35,000 units here (Sky didn't help much though) but VM's will (in my opinion) be hugely more popular than that.

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35180600)

HD is a huge growth area for VM & Sky... customers want it and ask for it more and more.