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Maggy 22-02-2011 17:43

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Originally Posted by PeteLockwood (Post 35179931)
the genuinely disabled ? there is that many fakers i bet they dont know who is who, but for example, if somebody is in a wheelchair what iswrong with a job at a desk ? or a till ? should that be a free meal ticket for say there 80 year life ? things such as autism downs etc rightly so should be excluded but PHYSICAL disability there is always an option.

Can you think of a job for a person with highly impaired or no vision?

PeteLockwood 22-02-2011 17:47

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.... well that is kind of obvious there is not much to be done.... does this impaired blind person have a mobility car by any chance ?

dilli-theclaw 22-02-2011 17:49

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HHHmmm. IT work, chancellor, prime minister.

Then the age old job centre favourites - Fork lift driver, cleaner and till worker ;)

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Originally Posted by PeteLockwood (Post 35180012)
.... well that is kind of obvious there is not much to be done.... does this impaired blind person have a mobility car by any chance ?

No.

devilincarnate 22-02-2011 17:49

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Originally Posted by petelockwood (Post 35180012)
.... Well that is kind of obvious there is not much to be done.... Does this impaired blind person have a mobility car by any chance ?

what the fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff?

dilli-theclaw 22-02-2011 17:52

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35180016)
what the fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff?

I believe you can still get one (for other people to drive ;)) if you are registered blind and on higer rate mobility component of DLA (from April).

Maggy 22-02-2011 17:58

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Originally Posted by PeteLockwood (Post 35180012)
.... well that is kind of obvious there is not much to be done.... does this impaired blind person have a mobility car by any chance ?

No he doesn't..thankfully .The thought of dilli let loose in a car is terrifying..:D

Hugh 22-02-2011 18:01

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35180025)
No he doesn't..thankfully .The thought of dilli let loose in a car is terrifying..:D

I don't know - I've seem him drive an armoured car in MOH.......:D

dilli-theclaw 22-02-2011 18:04

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I do enjoy running people over it must be said - at least I have an excuse I guess :)

devilincarnate 22-02-2011 18:07

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 (Post 35180019)
I believe you can still get one (for other people to drive ;)) if you are registered blind and on higer rate mobility component of DLA (from April).

Yes i know that but i was questioning about the certain person that he/she was trying to slate. I know blind people can get cars if they are on the higher rate of mobilty for someone else to drive as you say from APRIL.

Also living in the BARNSLEY area we have a lot of really good disabled schools and support groups in the area I.E GREENACRE SCHOOL and ROBERT OGDEN AUTISTIC SCHOOL, Also the EARLY BIRD AUTISTIC CENTRE ( the base for all the other units around the world ). Also the first that i have mentioned i have friends who work or have gone there.

So a comment like the one before really gets on my wick.:mad::mad::mad:

dilli-theclaw 22-02-2011 18:18

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Originally Posted by PeteLockwood (Post 35180012)
.... well that is kind of obvious there is not much to be done.... does this impaired blind person have a mobility car by any chance ?

Don't you consider sight problems a physical disability?

After all you state 'but PHYSICAL disability there is always an option'.

Yet above you say something different.


Just out of interest what was your point / question about a car for?

peanut 22-02-2011 18:38

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He (PeteLockwood) does have a point in what is classed as a disability and what the impact of that disability has within a workplace.

Just by being in a wheelchair seems to be the stereotypical idea of a disabled person, they will get the benefits, the help and the compassion from others, yet that person might feel fine day to day, no pain etc.

I'm more annoyed that the people that don't fit the 'normal' criteria, eg can walk a bit, can pick up a coin, can reach to turn a tap on etc, are being penalised and classed as able bodied. The illness, the psychological problems or whatever they have doesn't matter, as long as they can do those tasks then you are just a work shy scrounging **** of the earth etc etc. (okay slightly ott).

RizzyKing 22-02-2011 19:02

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Peter in your opinion then should people who are in pain everyday are very limited physically and cannot walk much qualify as worthy or should they also be made to do work. If you say they should be made to do work find an employer that will be able to accomadate them on the days when they are in more pain then normal unable to walk to the job and may find that seasonally are off more then they are on. You need to understand amongst many genuine claimants it isn't a lack of wanting to work it is finding people that will employ us and be able to work around our disabilities not an easy thing to do when they can hire a fully fit person a lot easier.

PeteLockwood 22-02-2011 19:55

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 (Post 35180036)
Don't you consider sight problems a physical disability?

After all you state 'but PHYSICAL disability there is always an option'.

Yet above you say something different.


Just out of interest what was your point / question about a car for?

what i am trying to say, is just because somebody is in a wheelchair does not mean they are incapable of wiping there arse!

i wear glasses, by your logic i am entitled to disability ?

no wonder the country is in such a mess!!

dilli-theclaw 22-02-2011 19:57

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Originally Posted by PeteLockwood (Post 35180098)
what i am trying to say, is just because somebody is in a wheelchair does not mean they are incapable of wiping there arse!

i wear glasses, by your logic i am entitled to disability ?

no wonder the country is in such a mess!!

Really, please quote the post where I said that?

I also note you did not answer my question by the way.

I do find it interesting that you consider the wearing of glasses makes you disabled.

PeteLockwood 22-02-2011 19:58

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35180065)
Peter in your opinion then should people who are in pain everyday are very limited physically and cannot walk much qualify as worthy or should they also be made to do work. If you say they should be made to do work find an employer that will be able to accomadate them on the days when they are in more pain then normal unable to walk to the job and may find that seasonally are off more then they are on. You need to understand amongst many genuine claimants it isn't a lack of wanting to work it is finding people that will employ us and be able to work around our disabilities not an easy thing to do when they can hire a fully fit person a lot easier.

the thing is tho rizzy EVERYBODY for some reason seems to thing the slightest thing wrong and they are ENTITLED to state money when there is alternatives


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