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Flyboy 22-12-2010 22:48

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35141600)
Nor did Labour, it's a serious problem in this country IMO.

Look at the nature The Sun went after Labour when they decided to back the Tories, vicious, nasty, spiteful, and revelations timed to coincide with positive press for Labour. They did the same against the Tories previously.

But we are not talking about Labour. This has nothing to do with any past relationship NI had with Labour. This is now, this is what you voted for. This is about Cameron giving into Murdoch. He has already tried to get rid of OFCOM and he will eventually succeed; next step, the BBC.

Ignitionnet 22-12-2010 23:02

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35141903)
But we are not talking about Labour. This has nothing to do with any past relationship NI had with Labour. This is now, this is what you voted for. This is about Cameron giving into Murdoch. He has already tried to get rid of OFCOM and he will eventually succeed; next step, the BBC.

In what was is removing Vince Cable from this decision process giving in to Murdoch?

The only alternative I can envisage would have been to fire Vince Cable from BiS.

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EU competition commissioner, Joaquin Almunia, said in a statement that he is "confident this merger will not weaken competition in the United Kingdom".
As to the issue of media plurality while the BBC and the other sources of news exist it's tricky to see how this claim can be justified.

Ofcom was a New Labour infested mess of an overly bloated, inefficient and overly meddling QUANGO. Staffed by New Labourites, run by New Labourites to New Labourite policy. It has often been described as a most New Labour organisation and for very good reason, it was quite inevitable that it would be changed and frankly change was desperately needed. It being changed is nothing to do with Murdoch.

Nice partisan comments though ;)

Flyboy 22-12-2010 23:49

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35141905)
In what was is removing Vince Cable from this decision process giving in to Murdoch?

The only alternative I can envisage would have been to fire Vince Cable from BiS.



As to the issue of media plurality while the BBC and the other sources of news exist it's tricky to see how this claim can be justified.

Ofcom was a New Labour infested mess of an overly bloated, inefficient and overly meddling QUANGO. Staffed by New Labourites, run by New Labourites to New Labourite policy. It has often been described as a most New Labour organisation and for very good reason, it was quite inevitable that it would be changed and frankly change was desperately needed. It being changed is nothing to do with Murdoch.

Nice partisan comments though ;)

Excuse me?

Derek 23-12-2010 00:28

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Oops! It's not just Cable who has been a little bit indiscrete.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-Lib-Dems.html

punky 23-12-2010 00:37

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35141879)
As one of his constituents I must humbly disagree.

Careless and naive definitely, however he didn't say what he did for personal gain.

He may not have said it for personal gain but clearly he was going to use his position for it. Not financially but certainly politically. He made it clear he has some kind of personal vendetta against Murdoch and seemed to be clear in saying he'll use his position to hurt him personally.

I don't doubt he sincerely thinks he's doing the world a favour in his own little way but his conduct falls way short of what we expect from an elected official. Now he's lost responsibility for ALL descisions rather than the BSkyB one because he can't be trusted, what good is he?

What is a bit disconcerting is that he wasn't sacked. If it was a Tory MP i'm sure he/she would have been. I was a bit concerned before the coalition formed just how much power the Lib Dems wielded - far in excess of what they got from the electorate. The Lib Dems don't want him gone i'm sure. Cameron can risk the coalition breaking up as they would be certain to lose the next election due to cuts program. So until things pick up in the months/years to come the Lib Dems are going have the final say on things.

Arthurgray50@blu 23-12-2010 14:39

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What l think has happened is that Cable has told the truth, Murcdoch is trying to ahiceve what he wants, and that is take over the Sky empire, making him the most powerful man in the media.

The Tories want it, as Murdoch supported Cameron in the election, so what will happen, Murdoch will pump money into the Tories, and this is why Cable was going to block it.

IF Cable resigned or was sacked, it would cause a major problem in the coalition, as it needs all the Lib Dems to keep the coalition together.

The people l blame for all this mess, is the people that voted for the Tories in the first place, the Libs can forget about getting anymore seats for power, as they have been proved that they are have lied to the public, (which is nothing unusual in politics).

I give it till the Summer, and the whole thing will go under.

Hugh 23-12-2010 14:43

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Excellent - Arthur blames 10,703,754 people......

Oh, Arthur - have you been at the Christmas sherry already?

Arthurgray50@blu 23-12-2010 14:51

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Yes, hic

Taf 23-12-2010 16:43

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http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/12/23/31937/

Maggy 03-03-2011 12:09

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12631875

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Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation has been given government approval for its controversial takeover of BSkyB.
The green light follows News Corp's offer to spin-off Sky News as an independent company.
The decision follows concerns about the concentration of media outlets in the hands of one organisation.
Bah! I'm so cross..I agree with the opposition.
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Rival UK media groups dismissed News Corp's offer as a "whitewash" and said they would "vigorously contest" the takeover.

chris9991 03-03-2011 12:48

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I wonder if there is anything to stop Sky from starting a new news service

Tod 03-03-2011 13:31

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News Corp would not be allowed to increase its shareholding without the permission of the culture secretary for 10 years.
So how it is a problem now, but not in 10 years time? :rolleyes:

Ignitionnet 03-03-2011 13:46

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Someone pass the popcorn, few things rile some members up quite like Murdoch.

Sirius 03-03-2011 13:57

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35185899)
Someone pass the popcorn, few things rile some members up quite like Murdoch.

Well is there anyone else out there with same ability as he now has to change politics by using there control of the media.

Plus he is very easy to hate as he looks like Mr Burns :)

frogstamper 03-03-2011 15:44

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If you feel strongly about News Corps go ahead from yet another supine government cave in to the Murdoch empire, irrespective of colour, use this link to lobby your MP.

http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/spe...doch_Whitewash


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