Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

What about the original boxes that VM offered a one of payment for??

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

That was an installation fee.

Virgin have never sold TV STBs in any shape or form, they are all rented.

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

I believe Telewest allowed some customers to purchase TVDrive boxes.

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

Also what about boxes not returned and charged for.. Yes I know they are doorstop on the VM network but can still be tasked for other things including other countries

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

Although there was talk of them doing so, they never did as it was around the same time as the ntl:Telewest merger. To be honest I couldn't see for the lift of me why anyone would buy one even if they had done - it's not like you could use it anywhere else

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The tuners are theorectically be compatible with other countries, but you would first have to replace the EPG and Firmware - as the PVR functions don't work without an active provisioning signal from Virgin Media

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

The point though still stands, is changing the HDD in a V+ box illegal

Also are all V+ boxes covered by VM's terms & conditions

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

No don't think it's specifically illegal, as it doesn't allow to receive anything more than you pay for. However, it does break the T&Cs of the contract people have with Virgin and anyone that does it will likely get a bill to replace the STB due to damage if they ever leave, or if they break it whilst trying to do it.

As I said, the only one that likely aren't covered are those that don't work.

So why anyone would want to discuss how to waste time effort and money putting a bigger hard drive in box that doesn't work is beyond me

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

But you've already admitted that these doorsteps could be re-programmed and used in other countries with the same DVB-C style network.. ;)

What I though was more interested in is how far does CF go in protecting VM's T&C's when there are great big loopholes in them as in this case some V+ boxes are owned (though not on the VM network anymore)

:D

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

I said would I didn't say could

I never said they were owned, but if they aren't connected to the Virgin network then they aren't covered by the T&Cs

As far as I'm aware at no stage do Virgin transfer ownership rights to a customer. The charge levied when a customer fails to return equipment is a replacement fee, not a sale fee.

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At the end of the day, the choice is CF's as to whether to allow discussion of modification of Virgin's property. Personally as it's such a grey area legally, I wouldn't risk it

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

Boxes arent owned, they are either virgins equipment or stolen

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

How can then VM charge £250 for non-return.. They can't legally do this as a fine so have to be for the cost of replacing the box as detailed in many threads (will be interesting to see what wording one of the "Pay us £250 or return the box" letters state..

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

Just because you pay a fee to replace something, I can't see how that means you automatically own whatever has been replaced

Say you broke someone's window, and paid to replace it, does that mean you own the broken bits?

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

It's not a fine, it's cost of replacement to VM. It's in the T&C's, which also states that all VM equipment remains the property of VM at all times.

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

It's also not £250, its £125 to replace a V+ HD box

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

Ive read £125 but its £250 in the engineers handbook