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GazCBG 06-08-2010 13:34

Re: 50MB - 10MB Upload ?
 
It has dropped back to 5MB upload now.
Just checked the modem config page.

pip08456 06-08-2010 13:49

Re: 50MB - 10MB Upload ?
 
Trial over then, bit of a bummer for you.:bigcry::bigcry:

foddy 06-08-2010 14:32

Re: 50MB - 10MB Upload ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35068581)
There is no requirement to ack every single packet, I'm not sure where this comes from. TCP does, by default, do cumulative acknowledgement - an ack implicitly acknowledges every transmitted packet up until the sequence number the acknowledgement is supplied for.

The exception to this is misconfigured TCP stacks.

If one is acknowledging every single packet 100Mbit requires 3.6Mbit of upstream as a bare minimum, which would, yes, mean that 1.75Mbit is not enough for the 53Mbit downstream on the 50M.

HTH.

TCP stacks *used* to acknowledge every packet. These days, almost all TCP stacks implement delayed ACK which will (as the name suggests) delay ACKs, but SHOULD send at least one for every two packets. You therefore need approximately 1.8Mbps (by your calculation) for a 100Mbps downstream. It's probably possible to configure delayed ACK to acknowledge less often, but the default is always one ACK per two packets received.

http://freesoft.org/CIE/RFC/1122/110.htm

That said, it's assuming you're downloading efficiently with a 1500 btye MTU. As an example, my firewall pegs the TCP MSS to 1300 for various reasons, so in my case I'd need a little more upstream for my ACKs.

I'd also quite like to use the downstream while backing up my computer to Mozy!

Ignitionnet 06-08-2010 15:31

Re: 50MB - 10MB Upload ?
 
RFC2581, amongst others, deals with stretch acks.

Virgin can also skimp by using TurboDOX. I believe it's being re-enabled once fixed in the firmware. This plays some games with TCP streams to the extent where considerably less than 1.8Mbps is required from the client to saturate 100Mbps, and Payload Header Suppression further reduces the amount of data going across the actual coax.

Academic anyway, it'll be 100:10 so no problems!

janipewter 07-08-2010 09:04

Re: 50MB - 10MB Upload ?
 
I would die for a 10:1 connection ratio

Chrysalis 07-08-2010 09:44

Re: 50MB - 10MB Upload ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35068581)
The standard upgrade for 100Mbit and 10:1 ratio is 2 resegmentations and a doubling of channel width on overlay network, increasing upstream bandwidth by a factor of 8 and quadrupling downstream.

Good news, lets hope this is stuck to and not changed come commercial rollout.


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