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Saaf_laandon_mo 30-03-2010 10:54
Re: Christian terrorists
 
Regardless of whether there was an underlying motive to Xaccers post, I do thing that he has raised a valid argument in that when muslim terrorists are mentioned there is a general condemnation of the muslim faith, in its believers interpretation of the Koran, and that the non militants in the faith does not do enough to speak up against extremists. To be honest I have not heard of many terrorist groups where Christianity has been a focal point in the terrorists profiling - but should we now stop trusting Christianss because of the actions of a few (albeit a almost non existent minority). Can the same arguments that we have seen against Islam be applied to other religions (and why arent they).

Russ 30-03-2010 11:01
Re: Christian terrorists
 
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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34990742)
Regardless of whether there was an underlying motive to Xaccers post, I do thing that he has raised a valid argument in that when muslim terrorists are mentioned there is a general condemnation of the muslim faith, in its believers interpretation of the Koran, and that the non militants in the faith does not do enough to speak up against extremists. To be honest I have not heard of many terrorist groups where Christianity has been a focal point in the terrorists profiling - but should we now stop trusting Christianss because of the actions of a few (albeit a almost non existent minority). Can the same arguments that we have seen against Islam be applied to other religions (and why arent they).
Whereas I agree with what you say to a point, I can't remember any threads involving Islamic terrorists where people have questioned if they "really are" Muslim or not.

You know yourself that most people will not apply the same consideration to Islam as they do to Christianity.

Gary L 30-03-2010 11:13
Re: Christian terrorists
 
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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34990742)
Regardless of whether there was an underlying motive to Xaccers post, I do thing that he has raised a valid argument in that when muslim terrorists are mentioned there is a general condemnation of the muslim faith, in its believers interpretation of the Koran, and that the non militants in the faith does not do enough to speak up against extremists. To be honest I have not heard of many terrorist groups where Christianity has been a focal point in the terrorists profiling - but should we now stop trusting Christianss because of the actions of a few (albeit a almost non existent minority). Can the same arguments that we have seen against Islam be applied to other religions (and why arent they).
It's not really the same though is it.
these 'terrorists' are in the USA along with all the rest of the nuts using religion as an excuse. they are no threat to the UK.
The terrorists that we have in the UK that are a threat. are Mulims.

Saaf_laandon_mo 30-03-2010 11:16
Re: Christian terrorists
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34990748)
Whereas I agree with what you say to a point, I can't remember any threads involving Islamic terrorists where people have questioned if they "really are" Muslim or not.

You know yourself that most people will not apply the same consideration to Islam as they do to Christianity.
In my opinion the question is not put forward because quite a few assume that they (the terrorists) really are Muslims.

Just to be clear, I'm not trying to score points or throw cheap shots - I just think its an interesting argument/discussion.

Russ 30-03-2010 11:24
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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34990759)
In my opinion the question is not put forward because quite a few assume that they (the terrorists) really are Muslims.

Just to be clear, I'm not trying to score points or throw cheap shots - I just think its an interesting argument/discussion.
I know what you're saying - but the subject of whether the terrorists actually are Christian/Muslim/whatever has never been raised before, I just question why it came up now. Perhaps Xaccers had a moment of inspiration and posted a vital question that everyone has been wondering but never had the courage to ask.

Gary L 30-03-2010 11:28
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34990764)
I know what you're saying - but the subject of whether the terrorists actually are Christian/Muslim/whatever has never been raised before, I just question why it came up now.
I think it was a genuine question really.
what is a Muslim that isn't a Muslim? :confused:

Russ 30-03-2010 11:35
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I didn't say it wasn't a genuine question, I just wondered why, after countless threads over the years about Islamic terrorist almost on a weekly basis is the question of whether these people are what they claim to be is being asked now.

Gary L 30-03-2010 11:39
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34990771)
I didn't say it wasn't a genuine question, I just wondered why, after countless threads over the years about Islamic terrorist almost on a weekly basis is the question of whether these people are what they claim to be is being asked now.
Probably because nobody knows what a Muslim terrorist is that is not a Muslim terrorist.

Russ 30-03-2010 11:41
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34990776)
Probably because nobody knows what a Muslim terrorist is that is not a Muslim terrorist.
:confused:

Gary L 30-03-2010 11:43
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If it was on the news that it's been reported that a group of Muslim terrorists had blown up 10 downing street. who or what are they if they are not Muslims?

Escapee 30-03-2010 11:46
Re: Christian terrorists
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34990742)
Regardless of whether there was an underlying motive to Xaccers post, I do thing that he has raised a valid argument in that when muslim terrorists are mentioned there is a general condemnation of the muslim faith, in its believers interpretation of the Koran, and that the non militants in the faith does not do enough to speak up against extremists. To be honest I have not heard of many terrorist groups where Christianity has been a focal point in the terrorists profiling - but should we now stop trusting Christianss because of the actions of a few (albeit a almost non existent minority). Can the same arguments that we have seen against Islam be applied to other religions (and why arent they).
I wonder if they are following any instructions from the bible, or are they just a bunch of thugs using religion as an excuse. Islamic terrorists in contrast carry out terrorism by following quotes written in the holy quran.

Russ 30-03-2010 11:58
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34990780)
If it was on the news that it's been reported that a group of Muslim terrorists had blown up 10 downing street. who or what are they if they are not Muslims?
But who is saying they're not Muslims? Who are we to make that decision about them? And would that really be the prevailing issue?

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Originally Posted by Escapee
I wonder if they are following any instructions from the bible, or are they just a bunch of thugs using religion as an excuse. Islamic terrorists in contrast carry out terrorism by following quotes written in the holy quran.
They're following what they take as written in The Book of Revelations.

Gary L 30-03-2010 12:02
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34990790)
But who is saying they're not Muslims? Who are we to make that decision about them? And would that really be the prevailing issue?
They are Muslims. everyone knows that they're Muslims. but nobody knows whether someone who says they're a Christian terrorist really are Christians.

Maggy 30-03-2010 12:04
Re: Christian terrorists
 
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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34990644)
Sorry, I appologise, I didn't realise "Are they really christians?" was such a complex question which requires at least 10 lines of explainatory notes.
I will endeavour to use words of fewer syllables for you next time :rolleyes:
Can you direct me to the new forum rule where all questions need to be explained in great depth? By this question (which are things which are asked) I mean the updated list of forum rules which now say that all questions must be explained so that all members can understand what is actually being asked, a I've looked and cannot see such rule.
Or is "Are they really christians?" actually a valid and on-topic question?
Well you are very good at giving triple meanings to simple words.Seems I have to get the thesaurus out now to really get at what 'are they really Christians?' actually means in the world of xaccers..

Russ 30-03-2010 12:07
Re: Christian terrorists
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34990793)
They are Muslims. everyone knows that they're Muslims. but nobody knows whether someone who says they're a Christian terrorist really are Christians.
:nutter:

Keep taking that medication, I'm sure it'll kick in soon.


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