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Especially since the Liberal Party was founded in 1858, before the Labour Party :D (yes, I know the Libs merged with the SDP in 1988).

Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
 

Brown is doing much better though. Cameron better but not enough I don't think. Clegg not as great. Draw so far i reakon, or Brown edging it...

Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
 

Agreed

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Brown's opportunism, sound bites even if they're nothing to do with the question and taking pot shots is irritating. Cameron is much more impressive and aggressive this time.

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I actually find Brown's pot shots quite irritating points scoring.

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Cameron did well to smash Brown's leaflets and calling them lairs, and Brown couldn't counter. Tried to weakly suggest that he didn't authorise them, well of course not, they give that responsibility to someone else so they seem clean. Cameron didn't tell The Sun to go smash the Liberal Democrates but he knew they would on their behalf.

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Channel 4 poll as Clegg ahead, he has done ok. Cameron did really well on Europe, Clegg as got better. Brown is up and down but I thought he was ahead. Guardian poll tracker (much more informal though) has Lib Dems ahead but then we expect that from the Guardian don't we :D

Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
 

What, John Prescott??..... :confused:

:D


Re the debates, Brown has one massive disadvantage to overcome that doesn't apply to the other leaders. Those of us who aren't fully paid up members of the selective amnesia, "it's all Thatcher's fault", rose tinted specs brigade know that what he and his miserable party have said, done, promised and actually delivered over more than a decade have all too often been entirely different things!

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We had this question last week!!? What idiot decided three, one and a half hour debates was a good idea?

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Cameron is such a wuss. Gordon Brown banging on about taking 6 billion out of the economy there are two really simple responses:

1) Gordon, reducing VAT by 2.5% at the cost of over 20bn was considered stimulating, why would increasing taxes be considered stimulating?
2) Gordon, taxation is taking money out of the economy. The state is not the economy, the private sector is.

Repeating myself, and in the words of Barack Obama, what a lightweight.

Re: The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 2
 

at least with a imigration amnesty you would have a better idea how many illegals are in the country ,the other 2 dismiss the idea that there are any illegals

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Think longer term. Family class immigration applications based on amnestied relatives, more illegals turning up in hope of getting amnesty. Sound good?

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You would need to secure the borders better as well, we're obviously already a desired destination so I think the issue of people being encouraged to come here has already been lost.

Cleggs rebuttal to Brown's 'deport them' answer with 'You can't deport them, you don't know where the live" was good.

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The solution to that would be to make us a less desirable destination, which of course can't be done while we are obliged to follow laws set in Brussels.

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Its down to the libs or the tories its as simple as that.

Labour are dead in the water and they know it..

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How do you make it less desirable? Economic strength, tolerant multi-cultural society are two of the things which attract people here. Two things that benefit us, essentially the better we are as a country the more attractive we are to the rest of the world.

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Brown was better than last week. Cameron about the same to be honest. Clegg as bit worse.

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So GB accuses Clegg of being anti-american. Is that supposed to be an insult?