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Ignitionnet 25-02-2010 17:04

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 34970417)
i think they should concentrate sorting the issues on for 50mb users before causing more problems on the network.

A launch of 100Mbit will not cause any additional problems on the network.

Upgrades in preparation for 100Mbit should alleviate the congestion issues being seen on the upstream.

This will in no way affect ongoing work on any disconnection issues that there may be, the people who would be troubleshooting those aren't the same ones who would handle new tiers.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34970357)
Course TrustedReviews has just pointed out something I hadn't considered....

Also remember Ben that all the routers that have been handed out thusfar have a 100Mbit WAN port, won't be capable of delivering a 100Mbit service appropriately so you may well be right about it being a new tier.

BenMcr 25-02-2010 17:07

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 34970458)
Also remember Ben that all the routers that have been handed out thusfar have a 100Mbit WAN port, won't be capable of delivering a 100Mbit service appropriately so you may well be right about it being a new tier.

Well the DOCSIS 3 modems have 1Gb port, so it wouldn't be too difficult to swap bits over for a 50Mbit customer upgrading

Have a feeling though it's going to have to be something like the LAN over mains thing for anyone wanting the full speed

Ignitionnet 25-02-2010 17:11

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
This is amusing though, from the newsgroups, the first post on the subject:

Quote:

I see VM have finally publically anounced the new 100Meg tier

http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...257&highlight=

Wonder what the upload speed will be ?
Think Broadband, comments on the news story

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Posted by Locky about 6 hours ago
no mention of upstream... typical even tho the fttc has a max of 10 meg i dont think virgins 100 meg will come close to that...

Posted by whatever2 about 4 hours ago
what's the upload?

Posted by doowles about 4 hours ago
Anyone know the upload speeds?

Posted by CARPETBURN about 3 hours ago
Agreed with others though upstream will also be important with regards to future fibre based services, Virgin now need to concentrate on that.

Posted by Drefsab about 2 hours ago
As a virgin customer the only reason I have their 50mbit line over say a 20mbit isnt the head line speed its the faster upload and lack of draconian traffic management policies.

I want to use my line when I want it not a fraction of a time a day. 50mbit means I can burst my usage when I need it and the rest of the month use not much at all. I will only switch for a significant upstream boost or to keep a clean connection.
As I said above, 50Mbit -> 100Mbit downstream is just a willy wave for the press, 50 is ample at this time for all applications, it's the other direction where the most significant information will be and for those who aren't heavy newsgroup users will be the deal closer.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34970464)
Well the DOCSIS 3 modems have 1Gb port, so it wouldn't be too difficult to swap bits over for a 50Mbit customer upgrading

Have a feeling though it's going to have to be something like the LAN over mains thing for anyone wanting the full speed

I was thinking more of cost Ben. Not feasible as a tier uplift if you have to send tens of thousands of new routers out.

albertsteptoe 25-02-2010 17:11

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34970126)
As I don't see a thread for it at the moment:

http://bit.ly/8YZnEt

Virgin Media, the UK's leading internet service provider, today announced it would begin the roll-out of a 100Mb broadband service, the fastest available commercial product in the UK, by the end of 2010

100 meg thats nothing check my speed today.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/02/7.png

Hom3r 25-02-2010 17:38

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Bus...rter_Forecasts

Sirius 25-02-2010 17:50

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 34970417)
i think they should concentrate sorting the issues on for 50mb users before causing more problems on the network.

Yep there bad :D
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/02/5.png

telfordcable 25-02-2010 20:31

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
I want 100Mbps downstream and 100Mbps upstream (Unlimited Usage Allowance and non traffic management) at the price of £100 a month please!

Bring it over at Telford :)

P.S. Virgin Media, please do not ask for activation fee and installation charge of £100 one off fee !

jtaylor06 25-02-2010 20:41

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 34970615)
I want 100Mbps downstream and 100Mbps upstream (Unlimited Usage Allowance and non traffic management) at the price of £100 a month please!

Bring it over at Telford :)

P.S. Virgin Media, please do not ask for activation fee and installation charge of £100 one off fee !

+1 for Telford :D

Ignitionnet 25-02-2010 20:49

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 34970615)
I want 100Mbps downstream and 100Mbps upstream (Unlimited Usage Allowance and non traffic management) at the price of £100 a month please!

Bring it over at Telford :)

P.S. Virgin Media, please do not ask for activation fee and installation charge of £100 one off fee !

It won't be symmetrical. It won't be a hundred quid a month. To be prepared to pay 100 pounds a month but not want to pay an activation fee of 100 pounds is odd.

100Mbit will be released everywhere that's on the network though.

BenMcr 25-02-2010 20:50

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
Well considering it's using the same modem as 50Mbit I'm guessing (and don't quote me here) that it shouldn't cost any more to install/activate than 50Mbit

stedaman 26-02-2010 00:23

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
How about they upgrade the upload speeds to 10mb instead.

This silly willy waving about how amazing we are with such amazing download speeds. They are not needed..50mb is sufficient...Upload is more important to upgrade atm.

whats the upload going to be for 100mb....2.5 mb ? That would be stupid.

broadbandking 26-02-2010 08:13

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stedaman (Post 34970830)
How about they upgrade the upload speeds to 10mb instead.

This silly willy waving about how amazing we are with such amazing download speeds. They are not needed..50mb is sufficient...Upload is more important to upgrade atm.

whats the upload going to be for 100mb....2.5 mb ? That would be stupid.

Considering VM are doing 10Mb upload trials I see it been more that 2.5Mb.

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34970496)

Thats is so bad.

Ignitionnet 26-02-2010 08:29

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
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Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 34970879)
Considering VM are doing 10Mb upload trials I see it been more that 2.5Mb.

Show me the product. VM can trial 200Mbit fibre to the rectum for all I care, show me the product.

Quote:

Thats is so bad.
Isn't it? 1.35Mbps upstream on over 50Mbps downstream, a ratio of 37:1 and not enough to actually max the downstream without TCP acknowledgement suppression and cumulative acknowledgement. Pretty bad.

Yes I had to disturb the love fest over 50Mbps speed tests :p:

telfordcable 26-02-2010 09:11

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
100Mbps is going to be a new cable modem again (maybe other charge at £100 for the modem) and activation fee with installation charge could be addition too.

BenMcr 26-02-2010 09:37

Re: Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 34970900)
100Mbps is going to be a new cable modem again

No it's not.


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