Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

Reading the article though the quoted muslim incidents isn't smacking, but instead blatant physical assualt

This isn't using the exemption but actually breaking the law :(

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

The original title is Double standards row as Ed Balls refuses to ban smacking at mosque schools to avoid 'upsetting Muslim sensitivities'

I'd lose no matter what.

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

I'd love to see the quote for that headline.. Or are they just claims from 3rd parties??? Perhaps yet again the Daily Mail picking quotes out of thin air to support an article

:rolleyes:

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

Which in pointing that out you could be considered anti-muslim. unless you choose to see past it and see it for what it is.

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

well i did read this morning on a different site (i will try to find it again )that closing this loophole would also mean that a smacking ban would also have have to be imposed on grand mothers ect aswell ,don't see the connection myself and i will try to confirm that


here you go

The corporal punishment exemption also covers Sunday schools, home tutors and other people who are considered to be acting 'in loco parentis'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1243871/Double-standards-row-Ed-Balls-refuses-ban-smacking-mosque-schools-avoid-upsetting-Muslim-sensitivities.html#ixzz0csClFW9K

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

Once again, Gary, you are being selective with your interpretation of facts.

Kymmy pointed out that if those incidents had occurred, it would be breaking the law, not using a "loophole" - valid point.

You, however, only highlighted the alleged issue in regards to Muslims, even though the Daily Mail article also pointed out
You don't have to quote the whole article, as you intimated (boo hoo, everyone's picking on poor Gary....) - you just appear extremely selective in your quotes.;)

(as I pointed out before - what "experts"?)

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

That's the same link as the original? :)

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I'm not being selective in anything. you're being selective in quoting what you want to quote now to go with your part in the debate.
so I do actually have to quote the whole article. even if it's just to please you :)

Don't know if these count.

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

Anyhoo, Gary - I thought you were in favour of smacking as a form of discipline?

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

I am. just not in favour of abuse.

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

i know i just read the whole article ,yes i even read the bit at the bottom that the mail hope people don't get to cos that's were they tend to put the facts;)

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

So you're equating the fact that you put in your own title that could be considered biased against muslims with my facts gleamed from the articles..

PMSL.....

Thank you ever so much for displaying your viewpoint here and making it clearer to everyone your stance on this originally anti-muslim thread..

:clap: :clap:

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

What?

What? :confused:

You mentioned the word Muslims. I said if 'I' had done that I would be accused of making clear my stance to everyone. just like the way you just did.

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

I think she's pointing out your prejudices, Gary.

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

hmm so now people want to stop parents being able to give those they leave their kids with the right to punish their child in the ay they believe is right and lawful ?

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not in favour of abuse myself but smacking isn't automatically abuse in law or in real life

i have never been in favour of its use in mainstream schooling as parents there often have little idea of who the teacher is

but in situations where they choose the teacher and mostly know them well then they should be able to hand over thier parental choices to the person they are giving loco parentis too

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole
 

Oh. I didn't know that. :rolleyes: