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superbiatch 30-11-2009 21:20
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Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34918583)
Oh FFS, if you don't know how to de-mist ya windows, you're doing something very very wrong. ALL cars by law have to have heating settings that can de-mist a window in around 60 seconds. Commonly, it involves turning the 2 or 3 heat switches on to a position where the icon is the heat arrows snaking towards the windscreen. If you can't see where your mirrors are, windows down, windows up usually works.
Unless you have a Ford with quickclear windscreen ;)

Gary L 30-11-2009 21:24
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Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34918583)
Oh FFS, if you don't know how to de-mist ya windows, you're doing something very very wrong.
A lot of them have aircon, but think it's only useful in the summer.

Peter_ 30-11-2009 21:26
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34918590)
A lot of them have aircon, but think it's only useful in the summer.
On many cars they just cool the air unless you buy a top of the range model with proper climate control giving hot and cold at the touch of a button.

martyh 30-11-2009 21:30
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Originally Posted by Turkey Machine (Post 34918583)
Oh FFS, if you don't know how to de-mist ya windows, you're doing something very very wrong. ALL cars by law have to have heating settings that can de-mist a window in around 60 seconds. Commonly, it involves turning the 2 or 3 heat switches on to a position where the icon is the heat arrows snaking towards the windscreen. If you can't see where your mirrors are, windows down, windows up usually works.
yes but for the heating system to work the engine needs to be running and driving with misted up windows is both stupid and dangerous so normally a short period idling (5 mins or so) will sort it out if the engine is cold, so,if this does become a offence we will have to break the law to obey the law :confused:

Gary L 30-11-2009 21:34
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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34918594)
On many cars they just cool the air unless you buy a top of the range model with proper climate control giving hot and cold at the touch of a button.
Normal aircon will demist the windows.

Stuart 30-11-2009 21:36
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Originally Posted by Pauls9 (Post 34918295)
I need clear windows to look over my shoulder to check that the blind spots are clear of traffic before moving off
It takes maybe 1 minute to get back in the car (if necessary), back into the driving seat and start the engine, does it not? That gives another 3 minutes with your engine running for you to pull out...

It's even easier if your car has electric windows.. Just put the rear window down then up again.. It should clear the window enough for SOME visibility to be restored.

Finally, if you know the weather will be frosty, what about covering the windows at night? It does work.

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and to check over my shoulder for traffic on the main road when filtering onto it or when changing lanes on crowded roads.
Surely your engine would already be running at this point?

Peter_ 30-11-2009 21:42
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34918599)
Normal aircon will demist the windows.
On a cold morning it will not though.

Stuart 30-11-2009 21:46
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One thing to remember. The planet has a finite amount of oil (and diesel). If enough people stop running their cars for even 5 minutes in the morning, then the amount of fuel saved would be significant.

Gary L 30-11-2009 21:47
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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34918606)
On a cold morning it will not though.
Not if it's frost and not mist, no.

Peter_ 30-11-2009 21:49
Re: 'idling offence'
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34918609)
Not if it's frost and not mist, no.
Well this morning at 0630 only the heat would clear my misted up screen and if I had waited for the Aircon blowing cold air I would have had a long wait and wasted a lot more petrol.

Gary L 30-11-2009 21:59
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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34918610)
Well this morning at 0630 only the heat would clear my misted up screen and if I had waited for the Aircon blowing cold air I would have had a long wait and wasted a lot more petrol.
It works with the aircon blowing warm/hot.
if you are demisting with hot air, turning the aircon on at the same time will help a lot.

Hom3r 30-11-2009 22:03
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Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 34918585)
Unless you have a Ford with quickclear windscreen ;)
I'm lucky I have a 55 plate Mondeo Ghia X, that automatically turns on the front and rear screen heaters, which in turn does the wing mirrors, and I drive down the road with all windows / light clear, my bum is being kept lovely and warm by the seat heaters.

I have seen people driving down the road (Feb this year when we had the heavy snow in the south east). with a A4 size part of the screen free from snow, the side and rear windows had thick snow as did the lights.

banjo 30-11-2009 22:44
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I've got a garage :)

Flyboy 30-11-2009 23:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34918606)
On a cold morning it will not though.
Yes it will.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34918610)
Well this morning at 0630 only the heat would clear my misted up screen and if I had waited for the Aircon blowing cold air I would have had a long wait and wasted a lot more petrol.
So, why didn't you put on the warm air, conditoned or not?

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 34918619)
I'm lucky I have a 55 plate Mondeo Ghia X, that automatically turns on the front and rear screen heaters, which in turn does the wing mirrors, and I drive down the road with all windows / light clear, my bum is being kept lovely and warm by the seat heaters.

I have seen people driving down the road (Feb this year when we had the heavy snow in the south east). with a A4 size part of the screen free from snow, the side and rear windows had thick snow as did the lights.
In Sweden it is illegal to drive with snow on your car (just a bit of trivia :D).

martyh 30-11-2009 23:15
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34918671)
Yes it will.

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So, why didn't you put on the warm air, conditoned or not?
because the engine needs to be hot to get hot air which entails running it strangely enough :rolleyes:


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