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MrWright 26-02-2010 19:50
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Originally Posted by bensden (Post 34971207)
Yes just checked again working for me on BBC & Living HD, all in sync, I'm in Kent, perhaps you have not had the update yet. I had the update about 2 days ago. Can you set a reminder & then select the same channel & cancel the reminder just by pressing OK. this was part of the same update.
Tried to set the reminder, but it said it was not set. This could mean my box is not updated yet.

bensden 26-02-2010 20:09
Re: BBC HD Subtitles
 
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Originally Posted by MrWright (Post 34971228)
Tried to set the reminder, but it said it was not set. This could mean my box is not updated yet.
Sounds like it, You may get others saying if they can or cannot get subtitles on their Samsung V+ boxs.

I still don't get Channel 4HD subtitles even though the guide shows them as being broadcast. Perhaps Virgin don't support this yet.

kit1cat 27-02-2010 10:14
Re: BBC HD Subtitles
 
Watched Coming of Age on BBC HD last night and the subtitles were in sync on my SA box, looks like it could be sorted at last. :)

MrWright 12-03-2010 23:04
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BBC HD subtitles is now working on my Samsung box, thank you Virgin!

kit1cat 13-03-2010 09:33
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:) Great :)

kit1cat 03-04-2010 14:24
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No subtitles on ITV HD last night, any one else notice this problem? Have been told they are working ok on freesat.

MrWright 03-04-2010 20:55
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No subtitles on ITV HD on my freesat HD box.

kit1cat 04-04-2010 11:52
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No subtitles on channel 4 HD last night. What is the problem with HD and subtitles?

Digital Fanatic 04-04-2010 18:20
Re: BBC HD Subtitles
 
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Originally Posted by kit1cat (Post 34994306)
No subtitles on channel 4 HD last night. What is the problem with HD and subtitles?
Sky HD hasn't got subtitles on ITV1 HD or Channel4 HD either, so it's a source issue, i.e. the broadcaster.

The-Darkside 04-04-2010 18:47
Re: BBC HD Subtitles
 
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 34994495)
Sky HD hasn't got subtitles on ITV1 HD or Channel4 HD either, so it's a source issue, i.e. the broadcaster.
Theres no real spec for how a broadcaster should do distribution of HD subtitling. Theres no such thing as VBI in HD, so new methods are being looked at for how to carry subtitles within the video distribution. The only channels currently doing subtitles are the ones who can encode the channels at the same place as playout occurs so don't have to distribute the subtitles to a seperate encoding site.

kit1cat 04-04-2010 19:21
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Originally Posted by The-Darkside (Post 34994504)
Theres no real spec for how a broadcaster should do distribution of HD subtitling. Theres no such thing as VBI in HD, so new methods are being looked at for how to carry subtitles within the video distribution. The only channels currently doing subtitles are the ones who can encode the channels at the same place as playout occurs so don't have to distribute the subtitles to a seperate encoding site.
Let's hope they can get it sorted, it spoils what would be a good service.

Digital Fanatic 04-04-2010 19:22
Re: BBC HD Subtitles
 
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Originally Posted by The-Darkside (Post 34994504)
Theres no real spec for how a broadcaster should do distribution of HD subtitling. Theres no such thing as VBI in HD, so new methods are being looked at for how to carry subtitles within the video distribution. The only channels currently doing subtitles are the ones who can encode the channels at the same place as playout occurs so don't have to distribute the subtitles to a seperate encoding site.
Is that DVB they are using then?

The-Darkside 04-04-2010 19:45
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 34994518)
Is that DVB they are using then?
DVB does not specify how subtiting is embedded within video for distribution prior to encoding. Thats post encoding.
Sky don't use DVB subtitling. Freesat do.

Digital Fanatic 04-04-2010 19:55
Re: BBC HD Subtitles
 
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Originally Posted by The-Darkside (Post 34994541)
DVB does not specify how subtiting is embedded within video for distribution prior to encoding. Thats post encoding.
Sky don't use DVB subtitling. Freesat do.
yeah I read about Sky not doing DVB... VM can use both DVB & VBI on their platform. :)

The-Darkside 04-04-2010 19:57
Re: BBC HD Subtitles
 
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 34994547)
yeah I read about Sky not doing DVB... VM can use both DVB & VBI on their platform. :)
Sky launched before the DTG had finished the DVB subtitling spec.


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