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Hugh 26-11-2009 11:07

Re: Brown to push for royal Roman Catholics law change
 
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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 34915869)
He certainly wasn't a catholic at that particular time - and it was precisely because his intention to convert was widely known that he didn't pursue the constitutional change.

By the way, I'm certainly not attempting to defend the catholic church, I'm merely pointing out that being discriminatory on the basis of gender or religion is not something that a constitutional democracy ought to be proud of.

What Mr A said (and I am a lapsed Catholic, who now attends a C of E church, and whose first marriage was to a Methodist - confusing, or what.....:D ).

nomadking 26-11-2009 11:12

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But he has indicated that he had Catholic beliefs long before he actually converted and that he felt that he had been truly a Catholic all along. Perhaps his impending interview with Fern Britton about religious beliefs, will shed some light on this. The series starts this Sunday with Dolly Parton, then following week, Desmond Tutu.

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Tony Blair said his conversion to Catholicism had been driven by his wife, Cherie, adding that it "felt right" and "is now where my heart is".
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"As time went on, I had been going to mass for a long time ... it's difficult to find the right words. I felt this was right for me. There was something, not just about the doctrine of the church, but of the universal nature of the Catholic church."
If his wife hadn't been a Catholic, then he wouldn't have had these Catholic feelings and tendencies in the first place.

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Despite ambitions to be a rock star or a footballer when he arrived at university, Blair said he was soon taken by his future wife, Cherie Booth, who was already an active Catholic on campus. During his recent speech, Blair said she had been the driving force behind his conversion shortly after leaving office two years ago. Today he added that conversion was "a path I have followed for 25 years," helped, he added, by a crucial private mass held by Pope John Paul II in 2003.
25 years is a long time.

popper 26-11-2009 11:21

Re: Brown to push for royal Roman Catholics law change
 
OC becoming a certified Catholic did wonders for raising his payed for appearances fees and lectures income on the US circuit etc...

nomadking 26-11-2009 12:06

Re: Brown to push for royal Roman Catholics law change
 
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Originally Posted by popper (Post 34915887)
OC becoming a certified Catholic did wonders for raising his payed for appearances fees and lectures income on the US circuit etc...

That would imply that Catholics discriminate against non-Catholics.:shocked:(not)

Hugh 26-11-2009 13:46

Re: Brown to push for royal Roman Catholics law change
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 34915903)
That would imply that Catholics discriminate against non-Catholics.:shocked:(not)

erm.....
a) If you are looking for religious discrimination, I refer you to Glasgow and Belfast, and it was the other way around.:erm:
b) It is the fact he has come out as a Christian, rather than RC - the US love public displays of Christian religiousity; approx 52% of our friends from across the water are Protestant, and 23% are Kafflik (and that 41% of Americans regularly attend church), so you may have presumed that, given previous issues with the Kennedy family due to their religious affiliations, "coming out" as a left-footer would have diminished his box-office takings.

papa smurf 26-11-2009 18:36

Re: Brown to push for royal Roman Catholics law change
 
i suppose it would be workable if the queen was the supreme ruler of the kaffics ,instead of the pope .


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