Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34915454)

Yes, That one sided, but that's because of a cultural perception. However what you said what be objectionable if the women was portrayed as a victim and it was glorified. If they were righting and it was equal it wouldn't be outrageous.

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34915403)

I read that thank you, but I can not see any problem with it. Don't you think that it should be a priority to reduce domestic violence?

The quote does not say that violence against men should be ignored, but as a further link pointed out, women are disproportionately victims of domestic violence. Are you sure that your objection to this isn't just because it is Harriet Harman who is saying this?

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34915456)

The thing is there are some very reactionary people in the world (there's a few of them on CF) in which any mention of male-on-female violence is considered an outrage regardless of the circumstances but are noticeably silent when it's the reverse situation. Any objections to the status quo is considered to be a sympathetic vote for the violent male.

Three in ten (30.2%) women have experienced domestic abuse since the age of 16 and this equates to 4.8 million women.
(2) Men make up 40%* (two in five) of the victims of domestic abuse

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34915382)

Okay...where does it say that is what they are going to teach children?

As I said before, there is nothing "sexy" about it at all. I think you mean "sexist."

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They are not "failing" to teach them anything. There is a whole raft of reasons why children can not read or write, it is not always the school's fault. To teach children to be better citizens is just as important as teaching the three "R"s

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 34915471)

*sigh* more political correctness.

No wonder so many pupils these days have no qualifications, more and more of the school week is wasted on useless lessons like this instead of the basic requirements (reading, maths etc).

How about spending the £13 million or more on repairing the schools that are falling to bits.

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34915511)

Oh that's me told.....

I know of plenty of schools in the London area where kids as old as 8 are getting 1 hour homework a week, and not knowing how to read or write properly.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34915513)

8 isn't old. They spend quite a bit of time at school I don't think it fair to bombard them with more work when they get home. For another topic I guess though.

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 34915471)

*sigh* more political correctness.

No wonder so many pupils these days have no qualifications, more and more of the school week is wasted on useless lessons like this instead of the basic requirements (reading, maths etc).

How about spending the £13 million or more on repairing the schools that are falling to bits.

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34915316)

BIT OF A SNIP! I wonder just why we have yet another inititaive which entirely overlooks domestic violence against men?

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34915724)

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As speaks someone who has very little idea of how a school timetable works.

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34915418)

If anyone hasn't worked out why this won't work, i'll tell you.

Male domestic violence abusers broadly fit into two categories:

1. People that have uncontrollable rage. They know they shouldn't but once they are annoyed the red mist comes and lose control of their actions. Therefore telling them at 5 they shouldn't do it wouldn't be any use.

2. People that are just evil. They know they shouldn't do it but there brains are such badly-wired they don't care. Telling them at 5 they shouldn't do it wouldn't be of any use.

As for women, they know they shouldn't put up with domestic violence. They also know there are many organisations (of which many are female-specific) that can help. However the reasons they don't are often practicality such as kids, opportunity to get or emotional issues such as love or if they have been in long enough, they have become dependent on their abuser.

There has been several campaigns over the last couple of decades to get women to be more proactive in highlighting and fighting abuse. Reporting has risen dramatically and now almost plateaued. There are many domestic violence laws that have been enacted.

The cynic in me thinks this is just postering to appease the pink vote.

If anyone actually does care about domestic violence then its violence against males and LGBT that truly need help. Both are dramatically underreported and lacking in organisations to help.

One issue that particularly gauls me about domestic violence against men is that its considered funny or normal. i.e. A man asking a girl out getting a slap. Imagine the same happening in reverse? Its social attitudes like this which are causing women to believe they have the right to abuse men.