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BenMcr 23-09-2009 09:01
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
Blame Rupert Murdoch and his money grabbing companies ;)

Mick Fisher 23-09-2009 09:17
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
Sure. Why not? :D

Stuart 24-09-2009 15:17
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 34876964)
I don't doubt it. I came across the same link in another forum and was able to read the article without registering. I really don't know what to make of it. :confused:
As far as I can make out, it seems that the FT allow an article to be read for a certain time (or by a certain number of readers) before requiring registration to read it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gotorightway123 (Post 34877852)
"Given these commitments, we don't have immediate plans to deploy Webwise today. However, the interest-based advertising market is extremely dynamic and we intend to monitor Phorm's progress …before finalising our plans."

Phorm-
"It is not a great surprise to us, to be honest. It has been a long process and we have never had a definitive date on a launch," said a spokesman. "Phorm is not just dependent on a UK model with one ISP."

Odd that they don't seem willing to admit who those other ISPs are. I say it's odd, because they were quite open about partnering with VM, BT and CPW. It could just be that they've learned from their mistakes though.

Mick Fisher 24-09-2009 20:53
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34877860)
As far as I can make out, it seems that the FT allow an article to be read for a certain time (or by a certain number of readers) before requiring registration to read it.
Yes that could well be an explanation but it begs the question of why.

Either a site requires registration or it doesn't unless, of course, if an article proves to be so popular that charging for access to it becomes possible. But then why relax the registration necessity after only a few minutes?

I wondered if it had anything to do with where you were linking from. But even so, why the limitation?

Stuart 24-09-2009 22:02
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 34878149)
Yes that could well be an explanation but it begs the question of why.

Either a site requires registration or it doesn't unless, of course, if an article proves to be so popular that charging for access to it becomes possible. But then why relax the registration necessity after only a few minutes?

I wondered if it had anything to do with where you were linking from. But even so, why the limitation?
Actually what I meant was that maybe a few people are allowed to read the link, then after that, others need to register.

---------- Post added at 23:02 ---------- Previous post was at 22:58 ----------

Actually, just re-read their registration text. Looks like I got it wrong. The link is personalised. The site allows each person to read so many articles (or the same one so many times) per month before requiring registration.

Basic registration is free, but limits you to ten articles a month. Any more than that and you pay..

However, this is off topic.

Mick Fisher 25-09-2009 03:02
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34878214)
Actually what I meant was that maybe a few people are allowed to read the link, then after that, others need to register.

---------- Post added at 23:02 ---------- Previous post was at 22:58 ----------

Actually, just re-read their registration text. Looks like I got it wrong. The link is personalised. The site allows each person to read so many articles (or the same one so many times) per month before requiring registration.

Basic registration is free, but limits you to ten articles a month. Any more than that and you pay..

However, this is off topic.
Thanks for the explanation.

Stuart 25-02-2010 13:02
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
And, it looks like the CPS are going to attempt to prosecute BT... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/25/bt_cps/

Ignitionnet 25-02-2010 16:38
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34970335)
And, it looks like the CPS are going to attempt to prosecute BT... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/25/bt_cps/
Which is good news. At very least they should have taken some care and acquired appropriate legal opinions on what they were doing, that they didn't is a disgrace.

The executive responsible for it all, the man in charge of BT Retail at the time, is now the CEO of the entire group so no worries about finding the appropriate person :)

Stuart 30-06-2010 13:47
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
And Phorm are still going.. Just.

So far they have lost $100 million though, although they are getting good (for them) results from their only current trial, with a Brazillian ISP as more people opted in than they expected.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/30/phorm_results/

Sirius 30-06-2010 16:00
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 35049116)
And Phorm are still going.. Just.

So far they have lost $100 million though, although they are getting good (for them) results from their only current trial, with a Brazillian ISP as more people opted in than they expected.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/30/phorm_results/
:rolleyes: no one seems cared that the son of phorm is just around the corner "DETICA" and VM have said they WILL be using it and that they will not say where.

To quote them
Quote:
Exploiting our unique intellectual property
Exploiting our unique intellectual property

We specialise in helping clients collect, manage and exploit information in order to reveal actionable intelligence.

Ignitionnet 30-06-2010 16:48
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
Detica rock :romance:

Sirius 30-06-2010 17:11
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35049195)
Detica rock :romance:
I can see me and you falling out :)

joglynne 30-06-2010 17:31
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35049195)
Detica rock :romance:
Why? :)

Sirius 30-06-2010 17:41
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35049208)
Why? :)
He knows why. I dont trust Detica just like i dont trust Phorm. They are one and the same.

joglynne 30-06-2010 18:14
Re: British Telecom & CPW shelve rollout of Phorm Webwise [update]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35049214)
He knows why. I dont trust Detica just like i dont trust Phorm. They are one and the same.
Which is why I asked Ignitionnet why he thinks Detica rocks. :D


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