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Damien 30-01-2009 22:15

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34724947)
all very noble and fair -until its your job gone or the chance of a job gone

i think our local workers have sent a clear message to europe and it ends in off

There will be less jobs, not more, if we shun Europe.

Sir John Luke 30-01-2009 22:24

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1930s and National Socialism/Oswald Mosley, etc anyone? That's what happened last time protectionism raised its head, after the 'Great Depression'.

Tezcatlipoca 30-01-2009 22:27

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34724947)
i think our local workers have sent a clear message to europe and it ends in off

Is that message aimed at Europe in general, or just certain aspects of EU membership? Or all aspects of EU membership?

Or perhaps we should tell Total (& all the other European, & American, & Asian, etc.) companies operating in the UK to "ends in off" & let them go home & give jobs to their own people? With all these strikes in France, maybe a French company should be giving jobs only to the French...



If we force companies to employ only British workers, how does that work? Do we just ignore EU rules? Do we pull out of the EU completely? Do we allow some EU workers here, but only in certain industries or areas? Do we force companies to accept bids which are less competitive than ones they would have otherwise accepted, which may then affect the business, & maybe then make them think "we should 'ends in off' out of here before it costs us even more"?

How would we do it?

chris9991 30-01-2009 22:28

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It could be argued that the economic troubles in the 1970's in this country were caused by protectionism to. With the only thing saving us being North Sea gas coming on stream.

Damien 30-01-2009 22:50

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To be honest, I think people are just preconditioned to blame problems on an external source. In this case other countries. I am not sure if any of the people who suggest these companies should go elsewhere actually have much of an idea of what that would entail.

Xan 30-01-2009 23:04

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Lol at the people who thinks lowest contacts wins (tenders should be scraped look at the nhs coulds add more)

british jobs for british workers

Arthurgray50@blu 30-01-2009 23:05

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It was shown earlier this week, a photo in the national press, where THREE foriegn workers going into work, sticking there fingers up at us, now if this is not stirring up trouble, l don't know what it.

And the main problem is, that major companies are, and still will use agency workers, as they know that, the worker who will turn up will be foriegn, and these people know, that they can get rid of them quite easily, as they know there is someone who will fill that place, Major companies in the UK, will carry on doing this, as they know that the so called PM, won't stop it.

The PM made a statement quite recently, BRITISH JOBS, NEED BRITISH WORKERS, but will that happen NO, as he won't want to upset these companies, what we need to do, is the next by election, choose a new MP, that is NOT Labour, Labour used to be a party for the workers of this country, and yet look where it has got us.

I have a sneeky feeling, that within the next couple of weeks, all the unions in this country, will say enough, is enough, and call on the country to march onto London, and there will be a total closure to show that we need to stick up for our man or woman, - l think l will stand as a MP, who will support me, l will get this country running again.

Tezcatlipoca 30-01-2009 23:07

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Do you have a link to the photo? Who/what were they sticking their fingers up at? Us, or the tabloid photographer?


Do you think the Tories would be a party for the workers of this country?

Xan 30-01-2009 23:15

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labour is a joke if your white male dont go for promotion!!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/16/race.gender

LondonRoad 30-01-2009 23:29

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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 34724973)
Lol at the people who thinks lowest contacts wins (tenders should be scraped look at the nhs coulds add more)

british jobs for british workers

The tendering process is essential. What is often the problem is that the tender isn't specific enough. This allows bidders to place bids on a different basis.

It is very easy to place binding, and legal, terms in a contract. The present dispute wouldn't be happening if the original tender was correctly worded.

Xan 30-01-2009 23:30

Re: Watch your job
 
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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34724979)
Do you have a link to the photo? Who/what were they sticking their fingers up at? Us, or the tabloid photographer?


Do you think the Tories would be a party for the workers of this country?

must have been the photographer :erm:

Arthurgray50@blu 30-01-2009 23:34

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Hi MattD, unfortunately, l don't have a link, but it has been on national Tv and in the press, not unless, someone else knows about it, But all my info comes from the media.:)

---------- Post added at 23:34 ---------- Previous post was at 23:31 ----------

[Hi Xan, NO the Tories support only one group and that is the rich, and that includes all the major companies, they won't give a damn about the British worker, as long as they work there nuts off, to fill there pockets.:mad: I should be a politican:)

Xan 30-01-2009 23:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by harmitage (Post 34724990)
The tendering process is essential. What is often the problem is that the tender isn't specific enough. This allows bidders to place bids on a different basis.

It is very easy to place binding, and legal, terms in a contract. The present dispute wouldn't be happening if the original tender was correctly worded.

highlight(contract) a main tender olympic games what happened?we need another 12 bil

---------- Post added at 23:39 ---------- Previous post was at 23:36 ----------

tenders = the one that bids the less wins = cheapest workers = who cares i'm in a **** job

---------- Post added at 23:40 ---------- Previous post was at 23:39 ----------

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34724992)
Hi MattD, unfortunately, l don't have a link, but it has been on national Tv and in the press, not unless, someone else knows about it, But all my info comes from the media.:)

---------- Post added at 23:34 ---------- Previous post was at 23:31 ----------

[Hi Xan, NO the Tories support only one group and that is the rich, and that includes all the major companies, they won't give a damn about the British worker, as long as they work there nuts off, to fill there pockets.:mad: I should be a politican:)

never said i supported the torrries?did i

LondonRoad 30-01-2009 23:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xan (Post 34724997)

tenders = the one that bids the less wins = cheapest workers = who cares i'm in a **** job
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My point exactly. You can include in the tendering process, both the minimum wage to be paid and absolute adherence to all existing employment and trade union agreements.

It is the tendering process that is at fault if this can be bypassed.

Xan 30-01-2009 23:54

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minimum wage is a joke topped up by the tax payer? meaning i pay for that contarct in a way(tax credits)


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