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AntiSilence 12-07-2009 03:07

Re: SAS commander quits 'over kit'
 
I'd rather my taxes go towards sorting these heroes kit out that on waster work shy idiots here.

And while you're at it, don't forget to check out http://www.armedforcesday.org.uk/ (but late now but no matter).

Osem 12-07-2009 13:43

Re: SAS commander quits 'over kit'
 
Aha - this is more like HMG's real attitude:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8146546.stm

So basically between Darling, Brown and Ainsworth the message is that our troops are fully supported by the government and will get whatever help/resources they need....... unless, of course, those resources are helicopters (and very probably anything else which costs more than a few quid like decent armoured vehicles..)... :rolleyes: :mad:

We all know there are bound to be fatalities but what we do expect is that our troops have all the equipment they need to deal with the foreseeable risks and that any deaths aren't the result of MOD/governmental ineptitude and negligence. Sadly that isn't the case is it!

Osem 13-07-2009 18:10

Re: SAS commander quits 'over kit'
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8147679.stm

Sirius 13-07-2009 18:47

Re: SAS commander quits 'over kit'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34832941)

How can any one with a ounce of intelligence believe a word this man says after the expenses u turn.

martyh 13-07-2009 20:14

Re: SAS commander quits 'over kit'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34832971)
How can any one with a ounce of intelligence believe a word this man says after the expenses u turn.

how can he say that the armed forces have the equipment they need when troops have to buy a large portion of the kit themselves either because they don't get supplied enough or what they do get is of poor quality and cannot function in battle
He says there are 60%more helicopters in service now compared to 2006 is that because there are fewer planes /tanks, upto date radio equipment ect being supplied ? i think so

Osem 15-07-2009 13:53

Re: SAS commander quits 'over kit'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34833049)
He says there are 60%more helicopters in service now compared to 2006

Brown chooses to use a percentage figure here because it sounds a lot more impressive than the actual number which is just 30 or thereabouts IIRC. A 60% increase from, say, 20 to 32 doesn't seem such a lot now does it....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6667333.ece

I'd have more sympathy if we'd only been fighting there for a few months but it's been years and during that time HMG plainly hasn't planned ahead properly for any eventuality which would require more helicopters. While fatalities were low they could get away with their 'make do and mend' policy but now the numbers are rising fast they've been badly caught out.

Osem 16-07-2009 16:35

Re: SAS commander quits 'over kit'
 
The Commons Defence Select Committee seems to think the lack of helicopters is a real problem:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8153129.stm

Not quite the picture Brown insists on painting eh?.. :mad:

Osem 17-07-2009 08:31

Re: SAS commander quits 'over kit'
 
Now General Dannatt confirms the need for more equipment:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8155101.stm

Will Brown and co stump up the cash or are their claims just so much hot air?..

Osem 17-07-2009 21:07

Re: SAS commander quits 'over kit'
 
...and now the Chief of the Defence Staff, Sir Jock Stirrup, has said that the deployment of more helicopters to Afghanistan would save soldiers' lives:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8155890.stm

Brown's too busy building his bunker to notice I reckon...

Escapee 17-07-2009 21:22

Re: SAS commander quits 'over kit'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34835902)
...and now the Chief of the Defence Staff, Sir Jock Stirrup, has said that the deployment of more helicopters to Afghanistan would save soldiers' lives:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8155890.stm

Brown's too busy building his bunker to notice I reckon...

I 'guess' anything moved even a few miles there (equipment or soldiers) except patrols, use helicopters.

I would also 'guess' the reason it is difficult to get equipment moved around is due to the shortage.

Osem 25-07-2009 20:57

Re: SAS commander quits 'over kit'
 
It's all going to be OK folks - the MOD has decided to send more troops to Afghanistan..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8167615.stm

125 will make all the difference won't it.... :rolleyes:


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